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  1. #1
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    The end of the GOP

    Early polling is showing that for the first time in 4 years, people on the right are condemning Trump.

    There will still be a lot of people defending this. You can see Fox news already in damage control mode. But losing even just 5% of your base will condemn your party to the gutters for the rest of eternity.

    Yesterday was one of the worst days in American history. But the silver lining is the GOP will not survive this. The internet dwellers that don't live in reality will be back where they belong. Ignored. Irrelevant.

    I'm truly excited. I hope a new CONSERVATIVE party emerges. There hasn't been one for well over half a century.

    So the Birds of Prey of the world. Special FNK. Bret.

    Thank you. You have done your country a great service. I'm going to do what I've wanted to do with you guys for the last 4 years. Ignore you. I suggest others do the same.

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    The end?

    This will fade by February. There will be a new fight against the Dems as they control all houses and the GOP will unify again the minute Biden signs anything that they can spin as “socialist” or “commie”.

    The GOP will change the format of their primary to avoid another Trumper run but they will subtly appease some districts overrun with his loonies.

    The Tea Party was supposed to split the right. Progressives were supposed to split the left.

    But there is always a common enemy and narrative to fight and bring Em back together. Unless you can show me at least 30 million people who are willing to vote for the same 3rd party over what we have.

    The only hope for real change is an event that causes us to fight from bottom against the top, rather than left v right.

    You’d think bailing out corporations while the working class starves, gets evicted and bankrupted would do it. You’d think people dying in a pandemic because they can’t risk the cost of healthcare would do it. But clearly there is no limit to what the ruling class can exploit for political gain or monetary profit.

    We are a broken society and the cycle is a perfect circle with no immediate hope of breaking.

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    Yeah, it's a hit to the GOP but far from the end of 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    The end?

    This will fade by February. There will be a new fight against the Dems as they control all houses and the GOP will unify again the minute Biden signs anything that they can spin as “socialist” or “commie”.

    The GOP will change the format of their primary to avoid another Trumper run but they will subtly appease some districts overrun with his loonies.

    The Tea Party was supposed to split the right. Progressives were supposed to split the left.

    But there is always a common enemy and narrative to fight and bring Em back together. Unless you can show me at least 30 million people who are willing to vote for the same 3rd party over what we have.

    The only hope for real change is an event that causes us to fight from bottom against the top, rather than left v right.

    You’d think bailing out corporations while the working class starves, gets evicted and bankrupted would do it. You’d think people dying in a pandemic because they can’t risk the cost of healthcare would do it. But clearly there is no limit to what the ruling class can exploit for political gain or monetary profit.

    We are a broken society and the cycle is a perfect circle with no immediate hope of breaking.
    Politics is designed to work this way. It's far easier to coalesce in the minority than the majority. When you're all standing against something, it's incredibly easy to agree. But when you have to agree on a specific policy to change or implement agreement becomes extremely hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Early polling is showing that for the first time in 4 years, people on the right are condemning Trump.

    There will still be a lot of people defending this. You can see Fox news already in damage control mode. But losing even just 5% of your base will condemn your party to the gutters for the rest of eternity.

    Yesterday was one of the worst days in American history. But the silver lining is the GOP will not survive this. The internet dwellers that don't live in reality will be back where they belong. Ignored. Irrelevant.

    I'm truly excited. I hope a new CONSERVATIVE party emerges. There hasn't been one for well over half a century.

    So the Birds of Prey of the world. Special FNK. Bret.

    Thank you. You have done your country a great service. I'm going to do what I've wanted to do with you guys for the last 4 years. Ignore you. I suggest others do the same.
    Little wishful thinking on your part, I think.

    In two weeks, the negative image of the GOP will be gone and pushed aside. No one else in the party draws al that much attention.

    The dems, on the other hand, have a slew of unlikeable characters that many in the country will not warm up to. Pelosi has no excused now. People hated her before and it will be interesting to see what she comes up with.

    The dems are also the party of the squad……not everyone sees them as the darlings some of you might think they are. Mix in Wacky Maxine, Schiff, Nadler. Not too many likable people there.

    Next time a copt shoots a black guy and everyone goes nuts…who do you think will get the blame for that???

    When Harris replaces Pappy……how well do you think that will go over???

    If Iran shoots at one of our ships……do you think will handle that???

    If the dems pack the court or add states…that will not go over well

    The repubs will overhaul and come up with some decent candidates in 2024. Good chance of a woman at the top of the ticket. The dems will counter with Harris (or if she falters The First Lady Forever herself). Nothing is guaranteed there.

    The repubs are down but not out. They have a great chance to start from scratch by jettisoning Trump…a move most repubs will go along with as well as quite a few independents.

    I would not write off the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Politics is designed to work this way. It's far easier to coalesce in the minority than the majority. When you're all standing against something, it's incredibly easy to agree. But when you have to agree on a specific policy to change or implement agreement becomes extremely hard.
    Then we need to accept that we are a limited democracy and stop pretending we are so star spangled awesome. It’s a corporatocracy to be embraced or fought against at risk of division.

    Who knows what’s right anymore, but 2020 showed me the value in a lesser of evil.

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    The GOP invests in demonizing Democrats to their base who eats it up. They did it to Hilary Clinton, Pelosi, and now AOC. Successful tactic. Writing the obituary for the RNC is stupid because as long as bigoted, religious fanatics, and greedy gather they will vote red. Also the RNC has the unfair advantage of the red states like the two Dakotas having the same number of Senators as NY and California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Then we need to accept that we are a limited democracy and stop pretending we are so star spangled awesome. It’s a corporatocracy to be embraced or fought against at risk of division.

    Who knows what’s right anymore, but 2020 showed me the value in a lesser of evil.
    I mean it's pretty universally accepted that the US imperialism and self obsession has gotten past the point of no return. Right wingers don't seem to understand it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    The GOP invests in demonizing Democrats to their base who eats it up. They did it to Hilary Clinton, Pelosi, and now AOC. Successful tactic. Writing the obituary for the RNC is stupid because as long as bigoted, religious fanatics, and greedy gather they will vote red. Also the RNC has the unfair advantage of the red states like the two Dakotas having the same number of Senators as NY and California.
    Bolded………are they wrong???? Hilly and Pelosi are awful characters. AOC is a complete idiot. It's not demoniozoing if it is truthful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    I mean it's pretty universally accepted that the US imperialism and self obsession has gotten past the point of no return. Right wingers don't seem to understand it.


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    Nice turn of a phrase. You forgot to throw in "existential threat." That one is always good for emphasis.

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    It's cute how so many conservatives are scared to death of educated people and think having a college degree is akin to being a communist or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Little wishful thinking on your part, I think.

    In two weeks, the negative image of the GOP will be gone and pushed aside. No one else in the party draws al that much attention.

    The dems, on the other hand, have a slew of unlikeable characters that many in the country will not warm up to. Pelosi has no excused now. People hated her before and it will be interesting to see what she comes up with.

    The dems are also the party of the squad……not everyone sees them as the darlings some of you might think they are. Mix in Wacky Maxine, Schiff, Nadler. Not too many likable people there.

    Next time a copt shoots a black guy and everyone goes nuts…who do you think will get the blame for that???

    When Harris replaces Pappy……how well do you think that will go over???

    If Iran shoots at one of our ships……do you think will handle that???

    If the dems pack the court or add states…that will not go over well

    The repubs will overhaul and come up with some decent candidates in 2024. Good chance of a woman at the top of the ticket. The dems will counter with Harris (or if she falters The First Lady Forever herself). Nothing is guaranteed there.

    The repubs are down but not out. They have a great chance to start from scratch by jettisoning Trump…a move most repubs will go along with as well as quite a few independents.

    I would not write off the GOP.
    1. You could be right. It might blow over. But if I'm a Republican right now, I'm worried. When we get more data we'll see the true

    2. We're already seeing it though. People are abandoning ship. His entire cabinet is leaving. People are resigning. Changing course.

    3. The squad are 6 representatives. And good luck using them as canon fodder for supporting BLM while you guys support a state takeover. Watch the police unions abandon ship. Go ahead and claim to be the party of law and order. While everyone watched video of a cop backing down while people walked up to him with crowbars a big smile on their faces. These people LOOVVVEEE law and order.

    4. This is Pelosi's last 2 years probably. She's all but announced it.

    5. People have been claiming the president is gonna die of old age my entire life. They said it about Mccain. they said it about Bush Sr. They said it about Reagan. It's the oldest most BS scare tactic in the political handbook. Carter is like 200 years old still alive and kicking. Reagan lived till 93. Bush Sr 94.

    6. Iran is waiting for Biden to take office so they can get back into the IRan deal. There's good reason they haven't actually attacked. Trump and Netanyahu tried their absolute hardest to start that war. Iran knew what was up. The USA even had planes fly over Iran for "defensive purposes". Sure dude. Or maybe you were hoping someone got scared and had a happy trigger finger, so you could start the fear mongering.

    No man, I've called literally everything that was going to happen when it comes to Iran in the last 4 years. And I've been dead on. The GOP is so ****ing transparent in this, and you are an idiot if you think Iran are the aggressors here. If Iran hasn't retaliated yet, they won't.

    7. Hey it's possible. A lot of people thought the GOP was done after Bush. They made an epic turn around. I don't think anything you're saying here is going to persuade people. It'll have to be an even more epic turnaround.

    Again. Texas will go blue now. Mark. My. Words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post

    The repubs will overhaul and come up with some decent candidates in 2024. Good chance of a woman at the top of the ticket. The dems will counter with Harris (or if she falters The First Lady Forever herself). Nothing is guaranteed there.

    The repubs are down but not out. They have a great chance to start from scratch by jettisoning Trump…a move most repubs will go along with as well as quite a few independents.

    I would not write off the GOP.
    The conservatives have an opportunity to reclaim their party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Bolded………are they wrong???? Hilly and Pelosi are awful characters. AOC is a complete idiot. It's not demoniozoing if it is truthful.
    Slugg, you may disagree with people and positions but it’s a Republican strategy to demonize individuals, particularly woman in authority so that no argument they make is evaluated. No, I am not going to engage with you in a defense of the characters of Pelosi or Clinton, or AOC ( who is not stupid in any way ) since the Republicans don’t scrutinize the moral quality of its members who lack more in many ways then those three woman. That is what Republicans do, demonize and label individuals since they don’t want to argue ideas. Name calling and labeling, I was a Republican who did that and boy is that stupid.

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    The gop is like Jason.

    You may stop it for a lol while but that evil ****er will never sue.

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