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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    I know they want to swap but I donít think itís possible unless Biden picks his runningmate and then drops out and everyone rallies behind the runningmate at a brokered convention.


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    I dunno.

    Are\ there any hard and fast rules for any of this. I have no ideas. What if the party bosses convince him to step down and they put someone else in there? He would have to agree to this but, legally, what is to stop them.

    These are very unusual times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Sad to see this. The last hope to avoid our crumbling capitalism from becoming corporate fascism.
    Don't know if this is true.

    But coming out of thhsi corona crap, we do have a chance to hit some sort of "reset button" and make a change of direction.

    Would be nice to see a viable third party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    I dunno.

    Are\ there any hard and fast rules for any of this. I have no ideas. What if the party bosses convince him to step down and they put someone else in there? He would have to agree to this but, legally, what is to stop them.

    These are very unusual times.
    I looked this up one time but canít remember. I THINK if they really want to switch and Biden wants out, the course is to make sure who they want is selected by Biden as runningmate but he needs to stay in until the convention when delegates are cast for him. Then after the convention he drops out and the runningmate continues. If he drops out before the convention I think it becomes a brokered convention, where they still maintain some control but have to push the votes.

    I think this is all stemming from the Cuomo (ugh) hype. I donít see them making that kind of jump. Maybe. Who knows. At this point I think theyíve hitched their wagon to this blind bumbling horse of Biden and theyíll come crashing down hard maybe even before Election Day.


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    Iíd be a lot more comfortable with Cuomo as president than Biden.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Don't know if this is true.

    But coming out of thhsi corona crap, we do have a chance to hit some sort of "reset button" and make a change of direction.

    Would be nice to see a viable third party.
    Agreed. Our only hope is some kind of third party run that somehow balances right and left populism (a true working/middle class party) without corporate influence. And it would need enough of a wave of support without being demonized by the two corrupt parties in charge. Thatís a tough run. Perot and Nader were the closest third party runs and they STILL get demonized.

    We somehow need the Green and Libertarian parties to unite lol. Even then, we need a really strong candidate.

    As for the capitalism thing, there was a really interesting article I posted a while back. It was a work by a historian in Italy back in the 30ís talking about the end of capitalism in Europe and how easy it was for the rise of authoritarian fascist rule. I know it sounds extreme because the very words authoritarian and fascism are sooooo overused and people are like ďoh so weíre all nazisĒ but thatís not it. Itís a matter of where the balance of control and power is and the loss of power by the people.

    Steve Bannon called it out and said there is no doubt there will be a populist rise, the only question is if it was right leaning or liberal. But what he left out is that itís irrelevant while corporations control the pseudo populist leaders.

    I like the idea of a reset. But Dems, GOP and their mega donors learned a valuable lesson in 2008. They can openly control everything and people wonít revolt. And we see the same today. In the middle of a pandemic theyíre perfectly willing to bail them out again and hem and haw over whether an hourly worker deserves full pay or not. Their investments will always outweigh our well being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    Iíd be a lot more comfortable with Cuomo as president than Biden.


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    Yeah and Iíd be a lot more comfortable with a finger in my *** as opposed to an entire fist. None of the above would be best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Yeah and Iíd be a lot more comfortable with a finger in my *** as opposed to an entire fist. None of the above would be best.
    Itís not bad


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Sad to see this. The last hope to avoid our crumbling capitalism from becoming corporate fascism.
    Capitalism isn't really the problem. It's the balance between that and regulation that is out of wack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    I looked this up one time but canít remember. I THINK if they really want to switch and Biden wants out, the course is to make sure who they want is selected by Biden as runningmate but he needs to stay in until the convention when delegates are cast for him. Then after the convention he drops out and the runningmate continues. If he drops out before the convention I think it becomes a brokered convention, where they still maintain some control but have to push the votes.

    I think this is all stemming from the Cuomo (ugh) hype. I donít see them making that kind of jump. Maybe. Who knows. At this point I think theyíve hitched their wagon to this blind bumbling horse of Biden and theyíll come crashing down hard maybe even before Election Day.


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    All this sounds pretty Machievellian but is probably true.

    Trump is ripe for the picking but Biden doesn't seem to be the one to do the picking and the dems know this.

    A decent third party candidate could be interesting. (Is Hilly listening???) If there are three candidates it is very possible that Trump does not get 50% of the vote. Then (I think) it goes to the house for some sort of election. I'm not sure of the mechanics of it. It's never happened during my lifetime.

    But all the aspects of the 2020 election are interesting. Half the country hates Trump. Biden seems semi-alhzeimers, every one is pretty much disgusted with everything political, the corona crap will cause some to want to postpone the election and also question the outcome to death since it may cause a lot of people to not vote. There's a ;lot of angles here that ave never happened before.

    Think of a third party candidate. The third party is a hand picked Dem. (Is Hilly listening???) Biden, the third party and Trump run. No one gets a majority. It goes to the House (I think). Now the Dem controlled house can comfortably ignore Biden and choose the third party candidate. (Is Hilly listening???)

    It's really not that far fetched.

    Anything could happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmaster52 View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1155156

    Looks like weíre getting 4 more years of Trump. On the bright side of all of this, I donít have to worry about voting in the primaries or the general election during coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Glad to see he did the right thing this time.
    I was waiting for this post. [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Sad to see this. The last hope to avoid our crumbling capitalism from becoming corporate fascism.
    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Capitalism isn't really the problem. It's the balance between that and regulation that is out of wack.
    I think thatís kind of what he said.

    Hereís how I read it. Capitalism will always be regulated in some form, and the balance has shifted back and forth over the years in this country. It seems to be crumbling, however, in large part because now the corporations are almost completely in charge of dictating the regulations, to the point where there could soon be no balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Would not surprise me if something was developed where Biden is not the nominee.
    You've been saying variations of this for months now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    All this sounds pretty Machievellian but is probably true.

    Trump is ripe for the picking but Biden doesn't seem to be the one to do the picking and the dems know this.

    A decent third party candidate could be interesting. (Is Hilly listening???) If there are three candidates it is very possible that Trump does not get 50% of the vote. Then (I think) it goes to the house for some sort of election. I'm not sure of the mechanics of it. It's never happened during my lifetime.

    But all the aspects of the 2020 election are interesting. Half the country hates Trump. Biden seems semi-alhzeimers, every one is pretty much disgusted with everything political, the corona crap will cause some to want to postpone the election and also question the outcome to death since it may cause a lot of people to not vote. There's a ;lot of angles here that ave never happened before.

    Think of a third party candidate. The third party is a hand picked Dem. (Is Hilly listening???) Biden, the third party and Trump run. No one gets a majority. It goes to the House (I think). Now the Dem controlled house can comfortably ignore Biden and choose the third party candidate. (Is Hilly listening???)

    It's really not that far fetched.

    Anything could happen.
    There it is (over and over again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    You've been saying variations of this for months now.
    So you don't think this could possible happen???

    And I know your obvious retort is that anything could possible happen. So you can save that one.

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