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  1. #91
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    This seems like a great election for a third party candidate to maybe make some noise. The two options are absolutely terrible and a good speaker with a solid platform could likely turn a lot of people from both parties. Hope that option comes along

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You're really not offering much of anything is the problem. The voters and politicians can see that Bernie supporters are perfectly content to sit through another four years of Trump so that they can pretend to have achieved some twisted moral victory. Biden has already made concessions to push for policies that Sanders has wanted to push and it hasn't meant a damn bit of difference to Bernie supporters. Meanwhile moderate or dissatisfied Republican voters have shown up to the polls and put their support behind Biden to get him delegates.

    Sanders lost the primary in 2016, his supporters chose to sit the election out and contributed heavily to Trump getting elected. Sanders lost the primary in 2020, his supporters have chosen to say they will sit out the election and will heavily contribute to Trump getting re-elected.
    Like 97% of his suppoters went out and voted for Hillary, this is idea that they're why she lost is total non-sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodgerdave View Post
    Old voters are so ignorant about democratic socialism.
    Ya... Probably because those "old" voters lived through and saw what "Democratic Socialism" truly is. Not unlike the truly educated 20 year old undergrad taking classes from Professor Marxist.

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    Bernie Sanders drops out of the race.

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Like 97% of his suppoters went out and voted for Hillary, this is idea that they're why she lost is total non-sense.
    What contributed to Trump getting elected was swing states. Thatís really it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    It's the influence the power players have on politicians and policy that is what put it out of whack. I actually had hope the tea party might have pushed through some measures to get some money out of it, but the people in it who were pure of purpose were overwhelmed by some serious crap people and that movement became kind of evil pretty quickly. That was an interesting study in how one team mobilized to infect from inside the movement while the other side tore it down in the media.
    I think it says more about how the swamp effects people over time. That and being a small coalition makes it difficult to get stuff done.

    It's really a reminder of why we need term limits.

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/hill...st-2016-2020-1

    Here is some actual data for the people who keep blaming "Sanders supporters".

    What percentage of said supporters are you blaming and what percentage are you simply lumping in just to attack blindly? Hint: A large majority of people you are lumping/attacking did exactly what you want and voted Hillary.

    It's almost like you guys are trained DNC/CNN puppets at this point. How is that different than being a Rep/Fox puppet? I know, I know, their side is evil and yours is wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You're really not offering much of anything is the problem. The voters and politicians can see that Bernie supporters are perfectly content to sit through another four years of Trump so that they can pretend to have achieved some twisted moral victory. Biden has already made concessions to push for policies that Sanders has wanted to push and it hasn't meant a damn bit of difference to Bernie supporters. Meanwhile moderate or dissatisfied Republican voters have shown up to the polls and put their support behind Biden to get him delegates.

    Sanders lost the primary in 2016, his supporters chose to sit the election out and contributed heavily to Trump getting elected. Sanders lost the primary in 2020, his supporters have chosen to say they will sit out the election and will heavily contribute to Trump getting re-elected.
    His supporters by and large got out to vote for Hillary.

    A small minority of his supporters did what you claim. Is it fair to always judge a large group of people based on a small percentage or are you creating ridiculous standards to be an extreme partisan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You're really not offering much of anything is the problem. The voters and politicians can see that Bernie supporters are perfectly content to sit through another four years of Trump so that they can pretend to have achieved some twisted moral victory.
    Biden has already made concessions to push for policies that Sanders has wanted to push and it hasn't meant a damn bit of difference to Bernie supporters. Meanwhile moderate or dissatisfied Republican voters have shown up to the polls and put their support behind Biden to get him delegates.
    This whole political system is corrupt. I fear that corruption more than Trump. Biden is pure corruption and when he isn't he has shown numerous times to have bad judgment. He had to withdraw from one p[residential campaign because of his constant plagiarizing. He brags about working with segregationists and said that SSI, Medicare, and Medicaid should be considered for cuts for the national interest. He lied about participating in the civil rights movement. He is a neocon, neo-liberal who support endless wars. He told his rich donors nothing will change and it is back to business as usual. He is closer to being a republican then Hillary. He is a full partner in the fail policies of the War on Drugs. When he has changed his policies, it was to be more electable.

    I should be railing on you for supporting this candidate and a party that don't support your issues.



    Sanders lost the primary in 2016, his supporters chose to sit the election out and contributed heavily to Trump getting elected. Sanders lost the primary in 2020, his supporters have chosen to say they will sit out the election and will heavily contribute to Trump getting re-elected.
    You love quoting the mass media and moderate talking points. More of Hillary's supporters voted against Obama, then Bernie's supporters voted against Hillary. Bernie made three times the campaign rallies for Hillary then Hillary did for Obama. Spare me your lies, I get enough of them from the media and political parties.

    The funny things is that if Biden loses, Bernie supporters will get the blame for it as they were in 2016. Wake up, the democrat party is supposed to sell their agenda to the voters not put up crappy candidates for us to rubber stamp with our vote. Until the democrat party becomes more responsive to issues that move the progressive and their supporters, they can keep on losing. I have supported this party all my adult life and my kids are worse off then when I was their age coming out of Jim Crow. And Biden told his donors nothing will change.

    Really, the progressive should just leave the democrat party, I know their supporters will because both of these party are corrupt. Here is where you rail against us for not being team players. We all know how it is more important to support the party or fear Trump then fight for policies.

    As for what politicians promise during his campaign how often does that pan out when he is elected? Obama anyone? I think that is the main point that drew people to Bernie, he has always walked his talk and often being right when the moderate have been wrong.

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    So when are Bernie's staffers going to start the attacks on people? I bet comrade ManRam knows the plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You're really not offering much of anything is the problem. The voters and politicians can see that Bernie supporters are perfectly content to sit through another four years of Trump so that they can pretend to have achieved some twisted moral victory. Biden has already made concessions to push for policies that Sanders has wanted to push and it hasn't meant a damn bit of difference to Bernie supporters. Meanwhile moderate or dissatisfied Republican voters have shown up to the polls and put their support behind Biden to get him delegates.

    Sanders lost the primary in 2016, his supporters chose to sit the election out and contributed heavily to Trump getting elected. Sanders lost the primary in 2020, his supporters have chosen to say they will sit out the election and will heavily contribute to Trump getting re-elected.
    Iíd say the DNC establishment are willing to sit through another 4 years of trump as opposed to allowing the platform to move to democratic socialism. Thatís far scarier to me. Clearly shows whatís at the root of all this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    So when are Bernie's staffers going to start the attacks on people? I bet comrade ManRam knows the plans.
    Red scare!
    Red scare!

    Boogeymen everywhere!

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    Let's say I am a sheep, who do you think I would be more pissed off about, a wolf biting me or the sheepherder?

    Progressives are more pissed off with the democrat party then fearing Trump. I give it to the democrat party that is quite an accomplishment for a political party trying to win votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nessythegreat View Post
    So when are Bernie's staffers going to start the attacks on people? I bet comrade ManRam knows the plans.
    LOLOL, I knew we couldn't hide that from you. We start tomorrow at your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    You're really not offering much of anything is the problem. The voters and politicians can see that Bernie supporters are perfectly content to sit through another four years of Trump so that they can pretend to have achieved some twisted moral victory. Biden has already made concessions to push for policies that Sanders has wanted to push and it hasn't meant a damn bit of difference to Bernie supporters. Meanwhile moderate or dissatisfied Republican voters have shown up to the polls and put their support behind Biden to get him delegates.

    Sanders lost the primary in 2016, his supporters chose to sit the election out and contributed heavily to Trump getting elected. Sanders lost the primary in 2020, his supporters have chosen to say they will sit out the election and will heavily contribute to Trump getting re-elected.
    What concessions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    What concessions?
    He just makes stuff up

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