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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    and limiting the spread of the virus stops our medical system from imploding.... if we only suffered from just 1 disease like covid it would be one thing but many patients with many diseases across this country that further puts stress on our health care... we can barely deal with 200k cases... if we open things up think about how things are right now but x the patients infected by 30 million or more.... there is no coming back from that. People arent understanding its not just about this disease but if we let this spread now over the next 18 months the damage that will happen to our health care systems will be insanity and then we will have purge like riots and so on down the list because of hoarding because of just how sick everyone is.

    That isnt even the worst case by the way.... with 30 million infected lets think about if the virus mutates and or becomes antibiotic resistant because of the lack of information we have... now 18 months turns into 36 months.... its not possible to open things up anytime soon... the economy is the least of our worries when you have a country of 325 million people and as a country you rely so much on other countries for medicines/supplies and so on down the list.
    a depression would kill atleast 18 million from starvation not to mention the people killed from suicide, and violent crimes. Might be worth trying to avoid.

    maybe find a middle ground between helping keep distance, avoid huge crowds, wash your hands often, wear masks as much as possible VS literally everyone staying home. it might be sustainable for a longer period of time.

    While trying to protect the most vulnerable.

    Seems like the course of action immediately called for the most aggressive and least sustainable game plan as oppose to figuring out a more rational way to deal with the problem. BTW- there are people expecting the spike 2 months AFTER everyone is locked down.... so not sure the lock down is preventing anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    If enough players start missing pay checks theyíll agree really fast.
    Without fans the income for the games will be WAY down, are the players also going to agree to getting less pay?

    I don't know that playing the games makes a big difference to the owners financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Without fans the income for the games will be WAY down, are the players also going to agree to getting less pay?

    I don't know that playing the games makes a big difference to the owners financially.
    I would assume TV money makes a difference. They would miss out on some of the money without people coming to the arena for sure. But assuming the fans are craving nba basketball and most people are home..... they could get a lot of viewers on games.

    Question is- would it still make sense for all the sponsors to pay for advertising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    I would assume TV money makes a difference. They would miss out on some of the money without people coming to the arena for sure. But assuming the fans are craving nba basketball and most people are home..... they could get a lot of viewers on games.

    Question is- would it still make sense for all the sponsors to pay for advertising?
    Yup. Adverts on the court, within the game, thrown in randomly. Imagine the spike in league pass sales. Nightly national games. No bars to go to so have to watch from home.

    From the NBA standpoint if ratings spiked because of this imagine what negotiations of the next tv contracts would be like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Yup. Adverts on the court, within the game, thrown in randomly. Imagine the spike in league pass sales. Nightly national games. No bars to go to so have to watch from home.

    From the NBA standpoint if ratings spiked because of this imagine what negotiations of the next tv contracts would be like.
    It wouldnt last though. No smart business station or company would justify over paying because of a super spike in ratings for 1 month

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    It wouldnt last though. No smart business station or company would justify over paying because of a super spike in ratings for 1 month
    We donít know what would happen after that though[emoji2369]

    Say it isnít a spike but rather a start of a trend upwards? Or sustained viewing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    We donít know what would happen after that though[emoji2369]

    Say it isnít a spike but rather a start of a trend upwards? Or sustained viewing?
    if its a trend and sustained.... perhaps eventually the advertisers would be willing to pay more. However- regular tv money without arena revenue is still significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    He said it when he thought it might just be a (worst case scenario) option. Then **** hit the fan and he was more open to it rather than scrapping the season which was the next (worst case scenario) option.

    As much as not finishing out at least a smaller tiered playoffs would suck, I donít think that these guys would want to do the lock down games. If one of those casinos cleaned everything real well maybe they could use it for the court, rooms and restaurants but that would still be a huge staff to maintain it. Are they going to quarantine enough maids and cooks (assuming itíll all be buffet meals, if not then also servers) to go along with the hundreds of players/coaches/NBA officials/a few announcers/network camera men and producers?

    Remember, in this 2 week quarantine opening part, no one can come in contact with anyone. No gyms, no working out, not sure how doling out food would work.


    Iím 99.9% sure that weíre not getting a finality to this season and if we do it might just be a quick 4 or 8 team best of 3 tournament and then youíll have other teams complain that are outside that bubble. Plus, who gets paid at what level?

    As much as Iíd kill for basketball right now*, I just donít think that itís a viable idea.


    *Watched Uncut Gems the other night and the few scenes of Celtics/Sixers playoff games were so great to watch. Thinking about tracking down old games that I have no idea who won.
    Very difficult to resume. All it would take is one person or group of people not listening, then if one person tests positive, everyone in that bubble has now potentially been exposed.

    I'm not sure why in April the entire season has to be sacrificed but at the same time, I guess I get it from a risk/reward stand point.

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    someone on twitter said if they cancel the season everyone has same odds in the draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    if its a trend and sustained.... perhaps eventually the advertisers would be willing to pay more. However- regular tv money without arena revenue is still significant.
    I get that. So what I was thinking is lets say that NBA is the only sport to play anything right now, then some people who possibly has never watch NBA that becomes a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    and limiting the spread of the virus stops our medical system from imploding.... if we only suffered from just 1 disease like covid it would be one thing but many patients with many diseases across this country that further puts stress on our health care... we can barely deal with 200k cases... if we open things up think about how things are right now but x the patients infected by 30 million or more.... there is no coming back from that. People arent understanding its not just about this disease but if we let this spread now over the next 18 months the damage that will happen to our health care systems will be insanity and then we will have purge like riots and so on down the list because of hoarding because of just how sick everyone is.

    That isnt even the worst case by the way.... with 30 million infected lets think about if the virus mutates and or becomes antibiotic resistant because of the lack of information we have... now 18 months turns into 36 months.... its not possible to open things up anytime soon... the economy is the least of our worries when you have a country of 325 million people and as a country you rely so much on other countries for medicines/supplies and so on down the list.

    Over population and american ignorance is a *****... as a country 20 percent of our population still refuses to take this seriously with restrictions on... opening things back up is health care suicide.
    Nobody is currently talking about opening everything up this very instance. Trump said Easter like 2 weeks ago but obviously that was never gonna happen.
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    The original Boris Johnson plan (changed after he saw the British Imperial hospital) was to do nothing and let 60 to 80 percent of the population get it in a 2 month period then the entire population would have herd immunity. Although this could have killed 5 to 10 million people in the US causing massive destruction and collapse we would be good to go by NFL training camp. Darn it..

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    I don't know if the reduced income would let the owners cover their contracts and make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I don't know if the reduced income would let the owners cover their contracts and make money.
    They may operate at a loss, but some revenue is better than no revenue unless they're planning on not paying all their workers and players. In that situation they might be more solvent financially at the cost of their employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    a depression would kill atleast 18 million from starvation not to mention the people killed from suicide, and violent crimes. Might be worth trying to avoid.

    maybe find a middle ground between helping keep distance, avoid huge crowds, wash your hands often, wear masks as much as possible VS literally everyone staying home. it might be sustainable for a longer period of time.

    While trying to protect the most vulnerable.

    Seems like the course of action immediately called for the most aggressive and least sustainable game plan as oppose to figuring out a more rational way to deal with the problem. BTW- there are people expecting the spike 2 months AFTER everyone is locked down.... so not sure the lock down is preventing anything
    Dude, where do you keep getting this number of 18mil people starving to death if we don't just go back to work in the next few months?


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