NFCE 2020 Season Discussion Thread

[last stand]

JH has done nothing in limited snaps, except fumble at a 20% clip.

If he’s shown anything in practice, anything at all, he would already be on the field.

My guess is if he were to have to deal with what Wentz has, there would be no observable difference.

While I don’t think hurts is better than wentz this isn’t true

Even if hurts is playing well in practice which btw during the regular season back up QBs get barely any reps in practice if any. Most times they throw for the scout team if they do

They wouldn’t sit wentz. It’s not that simple. His contract has a dead cap of 65 million next year if we cut him and 25 if we trade him lol

So it’s not as simple as “if hurts was showing anything in practice he’d be in there” especially when he’s likely not getting any reps, let alone first team reps

[last stand]

Lots of rumbling since September about Doug’s happiness in Philly... Maybe, just maybe, maybe coaching has been an issue after all.

https://twitter.com/brandongowton/st...819830784?s=21

I think the writing was on the wall when howie stepped in and hired those offensive guys and fired groh which Doug didn’t want

Tbh I think both Doug and howie have to go. This is the 2nd straight head coach that howie has ended up with a bad relationship.

That’s headed on a pattern

[last stand]

His responses in press conferences have been pretty weird this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does want out. He wouldn’t be unemployed for very long.

New York jets. And with all the picks they’ll have once they unload darnold and what they already have from Jamal adams you may see them in the playoffs within 2 seasons

If dougs smart he’ll take Schwartz with him too

I’d foresee the jets making a remarkable turnaround with Doug and Trevor Lawrence

Like 7-9 level turnaround

[BDawk4Prez]

While I don’t think hurts is better than wentz this isn’t true

Even if hurts is playing well in practice which btw during the regular season back up QBs get barely any reps in practice if any. Most times they throw for the scout team if they do

They wouldn’t sit wentz. It’s not that simple. His contract has a dead cap of 65 million next year if we cut him and 25 if we trade him lol

So it’s not as simple as “if hurts was showing anything in practice he’d be in there” especially when he’s likely not getting any reps, let alone first team reps

He’s get drives. He’d be in the game plan more. Wentz would be off the field allowing Doug to open the playbook while he’s in there, even in limited time.

Benching Wentz would be dumb, I didn’t mean it in that way.

[EAGLES3658]

JH has done nothing in limited snaps, except fumble at a 20% clip.

If he’s shown anything in practice, anything at all, he would already be on the field.

My guess is if he were to have to deal with what Wentz has, there would be no observable difference.

We know this is not true. Doug plays favorites. Peters was still in there the entire game last week getting abused even though Mailata deserved it. Lj Fort showed more in TC and the preseason than anything Gerry ever did and Fort never saw the field.

[BDawk4Prez]

We know this is not true. Doug plays favorites. Peters was still in there the entire game last week getting abused even though Mailata deserved it. Lj Fort showed more in TC and the preseason than anything Gerry ever did and Fort never saw the field.

There’s nothing that’s been shown that would indicate we’d be in a better position with hurts, assuming he would also be dealing with everyone Wentz has on offense. Doug would probably make him throw it 40 times in the rain too while our rb’s averaged 6+ypc.

[EAGLES3658]

There’s nothing that’s been shown that would indicate we’d be in a better position with hurts, assuming he would also be dealing with everyone Wentz has on offense. Doug would probably make him throw it 40 times in the rain too while our rb’s averaged 6+ypc.

You never know how the backup will play. That is how it works. But, when a player is awful they bench that guy and give the backup a shot to see if he can do better. I don't understand this logic. If this was how everyone thought then no one would ever get benched for bad performance.

[BDawk4Prez]

You never know how the backup will play. That is how it works. But, when a player is awful they bench that guy and give the backup a shot to see if he can do better. I don't understand this logic. If this was how everyone thought then no one would ever get benched for bad performance.

If Carson wasn’t in the worst qb situation in the nfl I would agree.

[last stand]

Starting hurts is a potential disaster. The only way it works out is if he shows himself to be an absolute star. Then you can kinda figure things out with wentz after

Otherwise if he’s just mediocre, or bad, you’ve severed your relationship with wentz and you don’t exactly have his replacement

And while I do believe there will be a trade market for wentz. 49ers, colts, potentially the browns

Likely other teams that I’m not thinking of. There may be a market for him. Not for the price you’d like but for a price and some of the cap relief not all of it

I think for me personally I don’t see hurts doing that. He has talent and leadership qualities so it’s not impossible. But his arm and accuracy were never can’t miss.

So unless you have another premier prospect lined up like Justin fields I really would rather a new coach swing on wentz. Somebody with unbiased eyes

Our entire roster has had biased eyes for 3 years now. We need new fresh eyes to look at these guys and be honest.

[Mamba42]

The eagles had 9 different OL combinations against the Browns.

Sunday will be there 10th different starting OL combination in 11 games.

It’s tough out here in the streets.

Such a crazy year for injuries.

[last stand]

Also this is why I questioned paying Carson all last season. Until of course his final 4 games. But I questioned his actual quarterbacking ability. Not his talent. But the guy has always keyed on WRs. Now he just has rookies that don’t know the game well enough and a line that can’t hold up for him to scramble until someone’s open

Even in 2017 I saw a guy who was super athletic, with a big arm, and guys who won against their man. But the keying was still there. Hell even Nelson agholor or Alshon Jeffrey whoever that mole was said this

Carson has everything you want in a QB talent wise. Size, arm, mobility. But I question guys like him and josh Allen being able to dissect a defense

It is what it is. They paid him, now I’m just praying he turns it around or we get him a line that can hold up so he can key away lol and wait long enough for whoever he’s keying on to get open

[EAGLES3658]

You bench Carson mid-way through a game or something when he is playing horribly. Then he is being held accountable for his bad play and hopefully in serves as a wake up call. If Hurts plays well then maybe it proves that it isn't the team, it is more on Wentz. If he doesn't play well then you go back to Wentz easily and hopefully it serves as a spark as it has with many in the past.

The worst argument is acting like benching Wentz is completely severing ties with him and that it will destroy him mentally. If getting benched and being held accountable when you are playing like the worst QB in the league ruins you then you are just mentally weak. If someone is that mentally weak then they are not a franchise QB.

[QB_Eagles]

Not too much of a SB winning coach to play to the teams strengths either, but here we sit.

What are this team's strengths?

[last stand]

You bench Carson mid-way through a game or something when he is playing horribly. Then he is being held accountable for his bad play and hopefully in serves as a wake up call. If Hurts plays well then maybe it proves that it isn't the team, it is more on Wentz. If he doesn't play well then you go back to Wentz easily and hopefully it serves as a spark as it has with many in the past.

The worst argument is acting like benching Wentz is completely severing ties with him and that it will destroy him mentally. If getting benched and being held accountable when you are playing like the worst QB in the league ruins you then you are just mentally weak. If someone is that mentally weak then they are not a franchise QB.

Nothing to do with mental weakness. How many times has this actually worked? Seriously? How often has a QB been benched and gone on to just have some illustrious career?

No being sarcastic serious question. It happened to mcnabb towards the end of his career

Benching guys especially vets isn’t some majorly successful methodology from my memory

[QB_Eagles]

If you can’t notice the defense running to the screen guys immediately then I can’t help you. It’s as clear as day. They see it immediately post snap. It’s like they’ve known it better than us.

I mean seriously we must be looking at different plays. First the front 7 follows the fake to Hurts. Then the safeties and LBs drop deep into their zones. This is not what a defense recognizing the screen looks like.