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  1. #3331
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner4life View Post
    Very true. Just saying that maybe 2017 is the real outlier.
    We won the SB so if it is, cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last stand View Post
    Even by your metric 2020 would be a real outlier and considering 2 out of the 5 seasons were most similar those would be the best examples

    2018 and 2019 would be the most ďtellingĒ seasons under either side of the coin
    This I will agree. I hate how the Cowboys fans keep saying 2017 was an outlier due to this season. There are a ton of factors as to why he could be bad this season. Heís definitely a huge part as to why heís been bad but if you want to discredit 2017, 2018 and 2019 were plenty solid years that arenít so distant memories.

    Iím not ready to completely move on from Wentz because I doubt the dude just magically started sucking with 2020 being his norm.

    I think itís easy for Cowboys fans to point how he sucks this year to argue his 2017 season but completely overlook 2018-2019z wasnít a world beater then, but dude was still an above average QB considering talent level then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    This I will agree. I hate how the Cowboys fans keep saying 2017 was an outlier due to this season. There are a ton of factors as to why he could be bad this season. Heís definitely a huge part as to why heís been bad but if you want to discredit 2017, 2018 and 2019 were plenty solid years that arenít so distant memories.

    Iím not ready to completely move on from Wentz because I doubt the dude just magically started sucking with 2020 being his norm.

    I think itís easy for Cowboys fans to point how he sucks this year to argue his 2017 season but completely overlook 2018-2019z wasnít a world beater then, but dude was still an above average QB considering talent level then.


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    Depends how you look at it. 2019 is closer to 2020 then his 2017 year.
    Eagle fans IMO overlooked what a blah season Wentz had because of the surrounding talent and the fact that the eagles won the division.
    Wentz is essentially a 3600 yards 25 TDs 10 int guy if you average out his years.
    Heís thrown a few more INTs this year but everything else is basically on par.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    This I will agree. I hate how the Cowboys fans keep saying 2017 was an outlier due to this season. There are a ton of factors as to why he could be bad this season. Heís definitely a huge part as to why heís been bad but if you want to discredit 2017, 2018 and 2019 were plenty solid years that arenít so distant memories.

    Iím not ready to completely move on from Wentz because I doubt the dude just magically started sucking with 2020 being his norm.

    I think itís easy for Cowboys fans to point how he sucks this year to argue his 2017 season but completely overlook 2018-2019z wasnít a world beater then, but dude was still an above average QB considering talent level then.


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    Itís not our fault Carson sucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.B View Post
    Itís not our fault Carson sucks.


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    If both Carson and Dak retired tomorrow, do you think Dak would have rather had Carsonís career and a ring?

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    I think his offense is probably fine

    Itís the playcalling that could not be more off. Listening to zangaro and frank talk about it was pretty informative

    Saying how 2017 it was like every play Doug called, every 4th down, every 2 point just nailed it

    Now heís fallen off a cliff. Itís pretty much the opposite. Scariest part about Doug is his pressers where he says things like he doesnít know how many run plays weíve run, doesnít know how many roll outs weve done

    Dude is out of touch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.B View Post
    Itís not our fault Carson sucks.


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    Eloquent lol

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    https://www.instagram.com/p/CH-vx1WD...d=rn3y552vlzy6

    Read the description.. interesting stuff.. Some BIG CHANGES might happen on the eagles coaching staff this offseason if the offense doesnít improve in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    This I will agree. I hate how the Cowboys fans keep saying 2017 was an outlier due to this season. There are a ton of factors as to why he could be bad this season. Heís definitely a huge part as to why heís been bad but if you want to discredit 2017, 2018 and 2019 were plenty solid years that arenít so distant memories.

    Iím not ready to completely move on from Wentz because I doubt the dude just magically started sucking with 2020 being his norm.

    I think itís easy for Cowboys fans to point how he sucks this year to argue his 2017 season but completely overlook 2018-2019z wasnít a world beater then, but dude was still an above average QB considering talent level then.


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    This is how I feel too. Anybody that says this year is closer to normal for wentz is possibly brain dead. Heís proved time and time again that he can be a franchise QB.

    That being said, heís CLEARLY not playing like a franchise QB right now for whatever reason. Iím not ready to give up on wentz completely, but I do think benching him for a short while might do him some good and clear his mind so he can work on whatever is effecting him, off the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner4life View Post
    Depends how you look at it. 2019 is closer to 2020 then his 2017 year.
    Eagle fans IMO overlooked what a blah season Wentz had because of the surrounding talent and the fact that the eagles won the division.
    Wentz is essentially a 3600 yards 25 TDs 10 int guy if you average out his years.
    Heís thrown a few more INTs this year but everything else is basically on par.
    Lol what? His TD% was lower but in 2019 his INT% was closer to 2017 than 2020. Yards per game closer to 2017 than 2020. Comp% better than both. QBR closer to 2017 than 2020.

    So how is 2019 closer to 2020 again?

    If you factor in what he had to work with last year, itís arguable to say it was his best season.

    He also averages closer to 4000 yards, 11ints, 27 TDs off of what heís done rookie year through now.

    Thatís still not fantastic but wouldíve put him 12th in yards, 5th in TDs, 14th (worst) in 2019. 13th, 11th, 15th in 2018.

    Ironically he had the 9th most yards, 5th most TDs, and top 10 in least INTs in 2019.


    So heís probably hovering around that 13th ish rank right now. Thatís also just taking all his numbers including the 2017 and 2020 season.

    Itís safer today heís 2018-2019 Carson than 2020 Carson unless the dude has just lost it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Lol what? His TD% was lower but in 2019 his INT% was closer to 2017 than 2020. Yards per game closer to 2017 than 2020. Comp% better than both. QBR closer to 2017 than 2020.

    So how is 2019 closer to 2020 again?

    If you factor in what he had to work with last year, itís arguable to say it was his best season.

    He also averages closer to 4000 yards, 11ints, 27 TDs off of what heís done rookie year through now.

    Thatís still not fantastic but wouldíve put him 12th in yards, 5th in TDs, 14th (worst) in 2019. 13th, 11th, 15th in 2018.

    Ironically he had the 9th most yards, 5th most TDs, and top 10 in least INTs in 2019.


    So heís probably hovering around that 13th ish rank right now. Thatís also just taking all his numbers including the 2017 and 2020 season.

    Itís safer today heís 2018-2019 Carson than 2020 Carson unless the dude has just lost it.



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    Will have to wait till the end of the year to properly compare. I hate to prorate the year.
    Not sure how you have him averaging 4000 yards when he only got 4000 yards once in 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner4life View Post
    Will have to wait till the end of the year to properly compare. I hate to prorate the year.
    Not sure how you have him averaging 4000 yards when he only got 4000 yards once in 5 years.
    Average yards per game times 16.


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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Average yards per game times 16.


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    I was going on what he actually did per year and not potentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    The folks wanting to move on from Wentz after a bad stretch of 10 games truly is ignorance at its finest.
    I don't want to move on Wentz. (We can't anyway.) I would like to see Hurts play but that isn't happening.

    However, you said a couple days ago you want the Eagles to clean house, and that is an even bigger overreaction than wanting to move on from Wentz.

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