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    Maurice Harkless -Part 7 of a series analyzing the New York Knicks:

    The Knicks’ interest in retaining Maurice Harkless for next season grew after they obtained him in the Marcus Morris deal with the Clippers on Feb. 6, according to NBA sources.

    Originally, Harkless was just a big expiring contract to make the trade-deadline deal work.

    After viewing how sharply the 6-foot-7 small forward still played defense and how genuinely the Queens product and former St. John’s star wanted to be a Knick, team executives opened their minds.

    New Knicks president Leon Rose wanted to examine the 26-year-old closely across the last 16 games as he enters free agency.

    That audition likely will get cut short with the season’s indefinite suspension because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    “It was a chance for him to showcase to the Knicks and to see if he wanted to be here,’’ one NBA source told The Post. “He always wanted to be a Knick.’’

    In 12 games (eight starts), Harkless averaged 6.8 points, shooting 45.5 percent (just 28 percent from 3-point range). His value never has been measured by scoring numbers — and it certainly wasn’t in Los Angeles.

    Harkless’ lone season as a Clipper was hardly disappointing. He started 38 of his 50 games for the powerhouse Clips.

    “He understood his role — mainly to guard one of the other team’s best perimeter players, sparing Kawhi [Leonard] and Paul [George] for parts of games,’’ one Western Conference personnel man said. “He is an excellent defender — especially when guarding against guards and smaller wings. In Portland and in L.A., he played with ball-dominant stars, so he was often tucked in the corner. But when he cuts, he can be effective getting to the basket.’’

    Harkless’ hefty four-year, $40 million contract is about finished. NBA sources believe Harkless will get more than the minimum because of his versatile defense. In a 115-106 Knicks loss in Philadelphia on Feb. 27, Harkless buried five straight 3-pointers in the third quarter.


    “His only asset is on the defensive end, he’s not really a scorer, a so-so shooter, doesn’t rebound at his position,’’ an Eastern Conference scout said. “But his contributions rarely show up in the boxscore.”

    Even if Harkless doesn’t return, the Morris trade was a winner for the Knicks.

    If the season is canceled, it will be a mistake for the Clippers. A 2020 first-round pick could have been forfeited for 12 games of Morris. The No. 1 option as a Knick, Morris was adjusting to a new role in Los Angeles. Starting each game, Morris shot just 28.3 percent from 3-point land — or 16 points below his Knicks percentage. The Clippers were 8-4 with Morris.

    “I think there is a significant adjustment going from a situation where he had the ball in his hands a lot, with plenty of chances to find his rhythm, to one where he will inevitably have fewer opportunities,’’ the Western Conference personnel man said. “He fit in well with the group. But that adjustment takes time and it was unfortunately interrupted.”

    Moe Harkless

    Position: Small forward
    Height: 6-7
    Age: 26
    2019-20 statistics: 6.8 points, 3.3 rebounds. 1.7 assists in 12 games
    Contract status: Finishing up a four-year, $40 million pact

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    Harkless is a decent piece as long as we aren't investing any substantial salary

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    Gibson is what everyone expected. He seems like a total pro. He definitely isn’t worth 9 mil so I assume he is gone. I liked to be convinced otherwise


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    I think many missed that you can waive some of them and sign them for what they are actually worth if they truly want to remain. It's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    Harkless is a decent piece as long as we aren't investing any substantial salary
    agreed, role player at role player money

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    Harkless is a decent piece as long as we aren't investing any substantial salary
    Is there room in this town for two defense only wings?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    Kevin Knox- Part 8 of a series analyzing the New York Knicks:

    David Fizdale and his interim replacement Mike Miller each thought Kevin Knox had a tendency to play “soft’’, according to an NBA source.

    Hence, neither Knicks coach gave Knox the runway this season that he had his rookie year.

    Knox’s reduced playing time (17.9 minutes per game) led the 2018 lottery pick into a sophomore-jinxed campaign in which he averaged an embarrassingly low 6.4 points on 35.9 percent shooting.

    It’s a shame Miller may have run out of time to give Knox a larger stage as the season was suspended indefinitely on March 11 because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Miller wouldn’t start Knox even after starting small forward Marcus Morris was dealt Feb. 6. According to a source, Miller was still under order to go about the business of winning games — and the interim didn’t feel Knox gave him the best chance.

    While the coaches were happy with Knox’s improved defense this month, it doesn’t overshadow that the 6-foot-8 sniper from Kentucky looked fragile on offense despite his potential as an electric scorer/slasher.

    The opinions on Knox range from the optimistic to the apocalyptic. Seth Greenberg, the former Virginia Tech coach and current ESPN basketball maven, told The Post recently:

    “I like Knox. I wouldn’t give up on Knox. He could be a nice player.’’

    GM Scott Perry and his staff scouted Kentucky extensively during the 2017-18 season and took the freshman small forward over the freshman point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, who enjoyed a breakout season in Oklahoma City.

    “I was surprised they ignored the kid Gilgeous-Alexander because I thought he was Kentucky’s best player with the biggest upside,’’ said one NBA college scout. “Knox doesn’t look like a very good player now — not a defender, not creative enough on offense and his feet are bad. Think about their backcourt. It could be Donovan Mitchell [passed over in 2017] and Alexander. The league knows what Kevin does and they have taken it away. He doesn’t look quick enough to get by guys. He isn’t tough enough to post up smaller guys and isn’t a playmaker for others.”


    In defense of the Knicks, Gilgeous-Alexander declined to work out for any team except the Clippers. In addition, that draft the Knicks were all in on selecting a small forward to fill their greatest need.

    One shred of good news with Knox, 20, is he’s still the 23rd-youngest player in the NBA despite all but finishing his second campaign. That youth was Kentucky coach John Calipari’s main point this past week when he lobbied his longtime associate, new Knicks president Leon Rose, to not trade Knox. Calipari has Rose’s ear.

    “We are far from knowing what Kevin will be,’’ said one NBA executive familiar with the Knicks’ thinking. “All your young guys develop at different states. And normally the ninth pick in the draft is more of a rotational player than an All-Star.’’

    Knicks brass is also encouraged because it considers Knox arguably the team’s hardest worker. Pre-shutdown, Knox would come to the Tarrytown campus at night to get extra shots up.

    Knox, who is back in his hometown of Tampa, Fla., repeatedly said he wasn’t alarmed because his focus is more on improving on defense, where he showed a low motor and poor instincts. His defensive progress is seen in the numbers.

    Knox defended guards and forwards an equal amount of time. Guards shot just 41.8 percent against Knox, forwards were at 46.5 percent. Last season, guards shot 44.7 percent, forwards 48.4.

    In six March games, Knox blocked six shots and grabbed three steals. In January and February combined, he had just six blocks and two steals in 27 games. The Knicks coaches felt it was the start of him turning the defensive corner.

    Now Knox has got to get back that mojo on offense or that fourth-year team option for 2021-22 ($5.8 million) may be no sure thing.

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    15 part series - Analyzing Present-Future of each Knick- Mark Hale, Marc Berman

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    Kevin Knox- Part 8 of a series analyzing the New York Knicks:
    Maybe I’m just in a bad mood but what can Knox do other then catch and shoot from 3 and dribble in a straight line?


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    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    On Draft Night, I looked at Perry's selection of Kevin Knox at the same way I looked at Donnie Walsh selecting Jordan Hill. Kind of unimaginative. If Gilgeous-Alexander didn't want to go to anyone but the Clippers, I would have worked a deal with the Clippers to move down and take Michael Porter Jr with a future draft pick of some variety.

    As far as his play is concerned, he hasn't developed much since season one. I appreciate the coach getting on Knox to play some D but if none of the Vets are playing defense...how does that inspire the young?

    Whenever I see Knox, Dotson, and Frank hit the court, the Knicks are down by 15-20 pts and expected to stop the bleeding. Really? A bunch of kids?

    If the coaching staff and Front Office aren't developing the kids then you can forget about them getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Detfink View Post
    On Draft Night, I looked at Perry's selection of Kevin Knox at the same way I looked at Donnie Walsh selecting Jordan Hill. Kind of unimaginative. If Gilgeous-Alexander didn't want to go to anyone but the Clippers, I would have worked a deal with the Clippers to move down and take Michael Porter Jr with a future draft pick of some variety.

    As far as his play is concerned, he hasn't developed much since season one. I appreciate the coach getting on Knox to play some D but if none of the Vets are playing defense...how does that inspire the young?

    Whenever I see Knox, Dotson, and Frank hit the court, the Knicks are down by 15-20 pts and expected to stop the bleeding. Really? A bunch of kids?

    If the coaching staff and Front Office aren't developing the kids then you can forget about them getting better.
    Fire the coach again


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    this is all a countdown to #1, Frank. Media knows what they're doing...lol

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    Frank Ntilikina-Part 9 of a series analyzing the New York Knicks

    Despite making a loud statement in March, Knicks point guard Frank Ntilikina is in an awkward spot once again.

    The president who could decide his future, Leon Rose, is the same guy Ntilikina once fired as his agent when he led the Creative Artists Agency’s basketball department. Sources have indicated CAA was angered by the move.

    Ntilikina’s new man, the prominent French agent, Bouna Ndiaye, has worked on his client’s confidence since taking over after last season, according to a source close to Ntilikina.

    In his third season, the 2017 lottery pick made even more strides as a defensive stopper. He showed some progress as a more aggressive penetrator but still has a ways to go to before shedding his label as just a defensive specialist.

    His shooting percentages still aren’t up to par (39.3 percent, 32.1 from 3-point range). But in the Knicks’ last eight games, he shot 40 percent from 3.

    Former president Steve Mills was his stoutest supporter. With Mills — who drafted Ntilikina as general manager alongside former president Phil Jackson — bounced from the picture, Ntilikina’s future with the Knicks is cloudy.

    The longest-tenured Knick will enter the final year of his rookie contract, making a hefty $6.2 million.

    It wouldn’t be a shock — with the Knicks likely holding three picks in the top 38 of the draft — to use Ntilikina in a package to move up for a second lottery pick.

    Ntilikina, who has survived three Knicks presidents and three Knicks coaches, looked like he was finally getting it.

    The knock on Ntilikina is his passivity on offense — reluctant to penetrate — and not creative enough. Coaches also were concerned Ntilikina didn’t draw fouls, particularly considering he is an excellent free-throw shooter.

    In an 18-game span leading into the final two contests, Ntilikina had just 0.5 free-throw attempts per game. Ntilikina was 5 of 6 from the line in each of the last two outings.

    That’s when Washington happened. On March 10, the second-to-last game before the season was suspended because of the coronavirus pandemic, Ntilikina became the youngest Knick to register a 20-point, 10-assist game.

    “Before, when he had a defender in front of him, he made the pass to Mitchell [Robinson] or Bobby [Portis] or whoever,’’ interim coach Mike Miller said. “And now he’s seeing open lanes to the basket, and he’s going.”

    Will he be going, going, gone?

    There should be a team intrigued by Ntilikina and a slew of scouts attended Knicks games after the trade deadline. A league executive said teams interested in Ntilikina surely will attribute his substandard numbers on New York’s unsteady environment being a bad fit for a European used to team structure.

    “He’s not a great shooter, but he is a natural point guard who looks for teammates first,’’ former Knicks European scout Tim Shea told The Post. “His mindset is to shoot only when necessary or wide open. I think he sees things better when before everything was happening too fast.’’

    Shea, who also worked for Charlotte and Phoenix and lives in Barcelona as an NBA consultant, believes the Knicks’ environment was not beneficial for Ntilikina.

    “It’s been that merry-go-round of point guards there,’’ Shea said. “I don’t think that he has ever felt comfortable in New York. My opinion is that in a structured, original thinking offense he has good value. I hope Leon Rose can straighten it out. The kid can play and he was showing it. He’s got great defensive instincts.”

    The Knicks are expected to add a point guard in the offseason. Ntilikina still is not regarded as their starting point guard of the future. He started 26 times but only when Elfrid Payton was hurt.

    At age 21, the 6-foot-4 Frenchman could turn into a solid reserve who can also play shooting guard for a long time. With Ntilikina on the floor, the Knicks’ defensive rating was 110.5 (ranked 16th). Without him, the rating was 114.1 (28th).

    Your move, Leon.
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    surprised to hear a former Knicks scout call him a natural PG TBH.

    maybe in EURO ball or the 90's, but what a natural PG is now in the NBA has certainly changed and Frank isn't it.

    Everything else has pretty much been discussed to death. A high IQ, system PG who is a team player is wasted on this roster, can't imagine a worse fit. We have had no system, no team concept and a bunch of selfish, low IQ guys leading the way. Frank, THJR & KP could have been something but they barely got to play together.

    Hopefully things start to change next year and we start getting some high IQ team players that fit. Frank can have a great future here as a secondary playmaker & wing. It's another reason I'm not sold on Wood, we don't need another questionable fit & IQ guy.

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    and lol @ "hefty 6.2m"... for a team that regularly hands out absurd contracts to net negative journey players.

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    I actually think it's a compliment to Frank with any rumors to move up, we really don't have much in trade value except for Mitch and RJ at this point, and even them for the right trade is moveable.

    You have to go way back to remember when a roster was set and we simply added pieces to contend for the title.

    I remember being so happy when we got Harper and we were one John Starks shot out of a million to winning the whole thing.

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    With Ntilikina on the floor, the Knicks’ defensive rating was 110.5 (ranked 16th). Without him, the rating was 114.1 (28th).-Berman

    Pretty much the crux of the article. Frank Ntilikina is the Knicks' BEST defender and the guy who doesn't b#%ch when he doesn't get the ball but could use more touches to develop his offensive game.

    A few things:

    1. Frank Ntilikina fired Leon Rose because he encouraged Frank to stay in the states and work on his game (during the Hornacek rookie season). Terrible idea. You need playing time to work on your game. Nothing can simulate game time. Hence, it's no surprise Frank came back after playing in France with more confidence.

    2. If Mills was such a Frank supporter then why did he ok, Perry trading a draft pick for Mudiay? Not only did that move kill Frank's confidence but also made it even tougher for him to develop.

    I truly hope the Knicks move Frank Ntilikina. Not because I want to see him go. Similar to the Porzingis situation, it's two sides going in different directions.

    Frank needs guidance, encouragement to develop his game. Remember, Jason Kidd was a huge impact on Giannis developing HIS game (as reported by Mina Kimes) which is why he's not a Center. So don't feed me this system crap, Berman.

    The Knicks desperately want a superstar brand. That's cool.

    Frank would be a great fit under the tutelage of Pops or Carlisle. Two guys really good at developing talent and helping them adapt their skills to the team.

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