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  1. #8986
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Both sides in the political arena have done nothing but lie . Itís all about who can get the most people to buy their lies....

    Well, you and Nicky sure bought in. You both lie and demy like no one's business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Truth hurts. As per the Fuhrers order, when in doubt attack the messenger as "fake news" and TDS.
    Step one, denial

    Are you certain? Is Kyle Rittenhouse associated with D's?
    Were the white supremicists in Charlottesville? How about the Neo-Nazi's who marched on DC?
    With the details so far, Kyle is innocent. That said, I am in favor of all the facts coming to light and a fair trial being held. That said, the numbers of liberals doing this buries any that the right is performing. Do I like supremacy of any kind? Nope. But they have the rights to march, not kill, destroy, terrorize. That's the law we live under.

    You have conveniently avoid the crux of the comment, ie Trump's blatant abuse of the rule of law. By one count, he is currently defying as many as 20 different efforts to examine his conduct. Not all of these involve executive privilege. The pattern of resistance is such that we should evaluate the presidentís actions against that background and, rightly, conclude that much of the presidentís resistance is undertaken in bad faith in an attempt to avoid, or at a minimum delay, scrutiny of his conduct.
    Way to not provide any specifics. Top notch!



    Cali fires? Really. Flint is an environmental disaster. Trump has consistently and systematically eroded environmental protection at the behest of big oil in particular and multi nationals in general.
    Yes really. Clear out the fuel and the fires aren't so bad. But far left environmentalists of California rule policy.

    Yes, we were over protective putting us behind unnecessarily.

    Trump has refused to do as his predecessors have done: sever ties to the companies or financial interests that may pose, or present the appearance of, a conflict of interest. By keeping his assets in a family-managed trust, which he can revoke at any time, Trump and his family are in the unique position to profit directly from his public service. Special interests in Washington have caught on. Those seeking to curry favor with Trump are not only donating to his reelection campaign but holding fundraisers and galas at his resorts, private clubs and hotels Ė the proceeds of which benefit him and his family. When will we see his Taxes? Will we ever see his taxes?
    He divested himself right away. That his family has control is perfectly legal.
    The taxes...LOL

    Yes you suffer from TDS. You hate for hate sake and refuse to be honest. I wish you well in admitting your problem and finding help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Name a President thst doesnít lie.

    Please, they all do, who cares, his lies do not affect us.

    The difference is he lies about EVGERYTHING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Here ya go, the latest example of Trump abusing his power and the office and the US AG acting as a personal attorney! The AG represents the people of the US, there should be no question or hint of bias or preferential treatment.

    U.S. Seeks to Provide Trump Defense in E. Jean Carroll Suit
    By Bob Van Voris

    The U.S. Justice Department is seeking to take over the defense of President Donald Trump in a defamation suit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who claims Trump raped her two decades ago.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...F-65F14F017A06
    So the department is defending the office as the suit came within his term. No issues there. Show a case before that now the DOJ is looking to take over and you have a case. Will you admit you are wrong with this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    Willfully and gleefully ignorant. They have access to information that contradicts there preferred outlook, but the sources are conveniently fake news. Itís impossible to wake a person pretending to be asleep.
    You don't even see your own hypocrisy. Hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    Nor will Patriotism, common sense, concern for the economy, national security, rule of law, the environment. Your just changing the subject to distract from evaluating Trump. Itís ok. Do what you want. I am not voting for Trump, I did once and that was enough. My mistake, I was duped. But I am not doubling down to be stupid again.
    No, you are going for worse.

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    [QUOTE=Kinkotheclown;33586840]Everyone has more credibility than you. You only lie.
    I may not agree with Mush at times or much of the time but he doesn't make up lies about other posters or their words. And in the very rare occasion that he has, he stood up like a man and apologized


    That part isn't true. I can attest to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    The funds like the C funds and other funds have underperformed. The history is clear over what they have traditionally. You would have made even more without Trump.
    Given the crash when Hillary was projected to win, that's a tough one to show anything but losses all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    How did you dispute my position of long tern performance ? Look see it your way. I am not a person invested in Trump. I dont have to pretend and exagerate to justify my support for him to myself. I gave Trump a chance and on balance I pass. That is just thinking about the ecomomic issues. Do what you want. But no, Trump has been a failure for me. I won't give him ny vote again. But letís be honest, there is not anything that would have dissuaded you from voting for him in 2020. You are all in, despite the facts in my opinion, your team Trump, point blank period. That my friend could never be me, I let the performance dictate my vote, had he been better I would have. Unlike you who will despite anything.
    Again you waffle unlike a conservative. You said you blame Trump, then I show where money was made, then you say you have no one to blame but yourself, then back to blaming Trump.

    You're a CINO (conservative in name only), yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    And you shouting ď you lie!!!!! ď to nearly every post I make , makes you more credible than me? Lol good one

    He's 100 times more credible than you. Make that1000 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    Again you waffle unlike a conservative. You said you blame Trump, then I show where money was made, then you say you have no one to blame but yourself, then back to blaming Trump.

    You're a CINO (conservative in name only), yes?
    I am not calling you names, or trying to put you in a box. I wish you all the happiness in life, and I wish you a happy long life. I will not vote for Trump and I have outlined why over this entire thread. You want to call me names I am ok with that. Still not voting for him. You have not made an effective case for me to do so. You think you have, I have said why you have not. Then you call me whatever above you that feel should Shame me as a conservative. No matter, I am not voting for him again. In key battle ground states that may make all the difference. We will see what happens. I myself am very comfortable with my choice. In fact, I will contribute again in the next few minutes to the Biden campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    I am not calling you names, or trying to put you in a box. I wish you all the happiness in life, and I wish you a happy long life. I will not vote for Trump and I have outlined why over this entire thread. You want to call me names I am ok with that. Still not voting for him. You have not made an effective case for me to do so. You think you have, I have said why you have not. Then you call me whatever above you that feel should Shame me as a conservative. No matter, I am not voting for him again. In key battle ground states that may make all the difference. We will see what happens. I myself am very comfortable with my choice. In fact, I will contribute again in the next few minutes to the Biden campaign.
    Here is a word of advice , donít be telling someone not to call you names and then Brag about donating your hard earned money To a politician . That only proves your detractor right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    I am not calling you names, or trying to put you in a box. I wish you all the happiness in life, and I wish you a happy long life. I will not vote for Trump and I have outlined why over this entire thread. You want to call me names I am ok with that. Still not voting for him. You have not made an effective case for me to do so. You think you have, I have said why you have not. Then you call me whatever above you that feel should Shame me as a conservative. No matter, I am not voting for him again. In key battle ground states that may make all the difference. We will see what happens. I myself am very comfortable with my choice. In fact, I will contribute again in the next few minutes to the Biden campaign.
    I did not call you anything. Your actions call you a waffler, not I calling you one. I said your actions are to waffle.

    I asked if you are a CINO. I did not call you that. I asked as your actions are of a CINO.

    I wish you all the happiness too, without the expense of others.

    You are entitled to do as you please, but you're like the folks that put ketchup on a hot dog. You can do it, but you can't call it a Chicago Hot Dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Here is a word of advice , donít be telling someone not to call you names and then Brag about donating your hard earned money To a politician . That only proves your detractor right....
    See now Brett, I am going to continue to be me, you can continue with insults if it makes you feel better. So you canít convince me with arguments. Now more insults. Why insult me ? Does that make you feel better ? I have given your candidate a chance. I am now supporting his opponent. In this day and age with Trump using the post office, the attorney general, voter suppression, and with Covid 19, the opponent needs all the help he can get. Biden is not a billionaire who promised to self fund his campaign, so I will help with what I can. Plus, since I earned my money itís mine to do with what I want. I donít question how you spend your hard earned money ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    See now Brett, I am going to continue to be me, you can continue with insults if it makes you feel better. So you canít convince me with arguments. Now more insults. Why insult me ? Does that make you feel better ? I have given your candidate a chance. I am now supporting his opponent. In this day and age with Trump using the post office, the attorney general, voter suppression, and with Covid 19, the opponent needs all the help he can get. Biden is not a billionaire who promised to self fund his campaign, so I will help with what I can. Plus, since I earned my money itís mine to do with what I want. I donít question how you spend your hard earned money ?
    You can do whatever you want with it but donít be complaining about how your 401k hasnít done well under trump And then go and brag about how you are spending your hard earned money on a politician .I never ever donated one red cent to any politician and never will . And yes Biden Is not a billionaire but where do you think he is getting most of his campaign money from ? It sure is not the every day tax payers . It is a known fact that all politicians are controlled by the top 2%
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