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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Why? First, they are not as antithetical as you suggest. I would gather they are far more at odds with Trump than Biden. So you see them voting for Trump? Or simply staying home? One I would say is an impossibility, the other more realistic. Imo, what needs to happen is for Bernie to get more involved in the campaign, get more vocal in his support of Biden.

    But he is then going against his own laurels in a lot of ways. So basically just put down your true beliefs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    But the Democrats HAD 4 years to get ready!

    And Joe Biden is the best they had to offer?

    Hell Joe seems like a likable guy, one you can have a beer with at a baseball game. But that is the best the Dems have? Seriously? He is the one to face Trump?

    I believe a lot of the Dems will vote for Trump just because of how angry they are with the choice that represents their side. This will be their PROTEST VOTE in some ways. How ironic is that?
    ....or, much to the contrary the disgruntled Trump supporters in the middle and scores of seniors who are fed up, may just vote for Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    All I was saying is the one good deed gets washed away with all of the bad. It is a waste of time even talking about the tiny good thing as the walls cave in with all of the bad.
    Again, you miss the point. This wasn't about Castro or the communists. This was about the singular issue of Bernies defense of the literacy initiative. It did work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    But he is then going against his own laurels in a lot of ways. So basically just put down your true beliefs?
    I think you are over stating the ideological gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    But he is then going against his own laurels in a lot of ways. So basically just put down your true beliefs?
    Seriously Nick? Who do you believe Bernie is more closely aligned, Trump or Biden?

    I think Biden and Bernie may agree on many core fundamental issues, but differ on the details and execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    List the major things Trump has done to positively impact our education, healthcare, infrastructure, racial equality and social service systems?

    If you want to list the economy, ok. I agree. It was looking very good before this happened. (A bit of a paper house but it still looked very good)
    Klown not trying to be contrary but my wife is a hospital admin for the VFW's in the area. She hates Trump but she said in the roughly 4yrs Trump has been in office he absolutely prioritized the VFW. According to her things that used to take months to get scheduled, like specialty DR's, MRI's ect now are taking a normal amount of time for our health care system, not that that means our health care system is some grand prize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Yeah for sure. Even Obama and McCain in 2008. It just goes to show as well that even after all the backlash Trump has gotten for the virus, the economy, his response to the protesting, he still has a real shot to win the election. Its crazy the Democrats can't find someone to invigorate their base because this would be a slam dunk for them if they could.

    My issue is what things look like on Election day. All these polls, all these rallies (if there was no virus) how do they translate to poll numbers? Yeah people won't come out for a Trump rally but will they still vote for him on November 3rd? Yeah most people polled will say they support Biden but do those people come out to vote?

    Like you said, if Biden doesn't get help from Bernie's base, he's in deep ****. That will be the difference between him being president in January or Trump getting another 4 years. I will say though. Trump doesn't have a lot to campaign on. The country is in the toilet right now with all the jobs lost, all the coronavirus cases, the everyday protesting, etc. Its not good optics for his side.
    I could never support the McCain Palin ticket. One of my closest friends grew up next door to her in Wasila, AK, where she got her start in politics, I got to know her through playing hoops with her nephews. In my experience, she was a media whore, a liar, 2 faced person and her favorite nephew is a cry baby ***** on the basketball court. Her nephew @19 had to be flown home from Ireland 2 weeks into the trip because he was so homesick.

    I absolutely never could have voted for a ticket that she was on
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Klown not trying to be contrary but my wife is a hospital admin for the VFW's in the area. She hates Trump but she said in the roughly 4yrs Trump has been in office he absolutely prioritized the VFW. According to her things that used to take months to get scheduled, like specialty DR's, MRI's ect now are taking a normal amount of time for our health care system, not that that means our health care system is some grand prize.

    I don't take that as contrary at all.
    I love that he did that. Any person who serves in the military, should be guaranteed a home, food and healthcare.


    I was legitimately asking Mush. My point was, I can't stand Trump but I can see things he's done that are good.
    I've mentioned this before but if he can pull off a trade agreement with certain African countries and get us out of China's pocket? It would be amazing.

    To me, I want a president who does for everyone what he did for the VFW. He has fallen. very, very short in other social services. (For Georgie- So you know, Social services are socialist. But I think we need schools, public healthcare, state run infrastructure...I know you don't. I know you think the education system in this country is as gooded as eet cain beee)



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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    But that didnít help Hillary.

    Oh wait, The Russians got in the way.......cough, cough......
    Bernie didn't really do that for her.


    (Because she's an egotistical **** and didn't think she needed his help)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Biden is going to pander to Blacks by choosing Harris as his runningmate. And people call trump a phoney
    Talk about racist comments.

    Not the Black Community or Black People, just. Blacks?
    Are you sure your last name ins't Bunker?

    You continue to out do yourself.



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    Donald J. Trump
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    RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND OTHERS. IT WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!
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    If that ain't sowing the seeds, I don't know what is.

    He is setting the stage for a really crappy situation.
    How will those who were furious at Gore for the ballot boxes respond to Trump saying the election was stolen?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I don't take that as contrary at all.
    I love that he did that. Any person who serves in the military, should be guaranteed a home, food and healthcare.


    I was legitimately asking Mush. My point was, I can't stand Trump but I can see things he's done that are good.
    I've mentioned this before but if he can pull off a trade agreement with certain African countries and get us out of China's pocket? It would be amazing.

    To me, I want a president who does for everyone what he did for the VFW. He has fallen. very, very short in other social services. (For Georgie- So you know, Social services are socialist. But I think we need schools, public healthcare, state run infrastructure...I know you don't. I know you think the education system in this country is as gooded as eet cain beee)
    Simple and not too much to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinkotheclown View Post
    donald j. Trump
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    if that ain't sowing the seeds, i don't know what is.

    He is setting the stage for a really crappy situation.
    How will those who were furious at gore for the ballot boxes respond to trump saying the election was stolen?
    russia if you are listening......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Unless those two guys were standing within 6 feet of the people attending I donít see how it is Something to get very alarmed over
    So thousands of people there and you don't think they were near anyone? Okay........
    The REAL DEAL Yankee fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Talk about racist comments.

    Not the Black Community or Black People, just. Blacks?
    Are you sure your last name ins't Bunker?

    You continue to out do yourself.
    Political correctness has ruined this Country.

    You canít say this you canít say that before some person calls you a racist or takes things out of context and puts you in the same basket as other racist that are true racist.
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    2. Gimme Shelter
    3. Miss You
    4. Angie
    5. Sympathy for the Devil
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    7. Paint it Black
    8. Rock and a Hard Place
    9. (I canít get no) Satisfaction
    10. Undercover of the Night


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