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    After Considering $1 Billion Price Tag for Ventilators, White House Has Second Thoughts

    A deal with General Motors and Ventec Life Systems to produce tens of thousands of the critical lifesaving devices seemed imminent. Then the announcement was pulled back.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/u...ors-trump.html

    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    He is the perfect example of our 17th ranked educational system.
    You are more of an example of that since you are praising a communist country like China and still trashing your own country . I mean that is precisely what is taught in the educational system these days .

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    After Considering $1 Billion Price Tag for Ventilators, White House Has Second Thoughts

    A deal with General Motors and Ventec Life Systems to produce tens of thousands of the critical lifesaving devices seemed imminent. Then the announcement was pulled back.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/u...ors-trump.html

    WTF?

    FEMA made the decision to not accept that deal . Trump doesnít have the power to decide what it does with the money that it gets from the federal govt . The title of that article is misleading , the article itself said trump was waiting for the deal to come through but that fema decided against it .
    Last edited by Posada20; 03-27-2020 at 09:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    You are more of an example of that since you are praising a communist country like China and still trashing your own country . I mean that is precisely what is taught in the educational system these days .
    Trump just praised them too!! He said he "loves" Xi
    He said China "knows so much" about this and "Handled it very well"

    As for your definition of Communist and praising it, this is where you show just how ignorant you are.
    Freedom of speech is the first amendment. I would figure you didn't read all the way through that one

    Education involves thought. Which you clearly lack. Like a sheep. (And we know what all them orange farmers do to sheep on lonely nights)

    If you were able to actually think for yourself, you would see that I did in fact agree with China's system of government. I did not agree with anything they have done aside from handling the virus. They got it under control very, very quickly.
    I did not trash my country. I trashed the lack of response and pitiful blame game being played by the one person who should get this done by any means needed.
    We have more cases than China and we are on the rise. We have a president saying, things will be better in two weeks.

    Your backwoods, ethnocentric, head in the sand, hypocritical and ignorant perspective on this thing is hysterical and sad. The concept that you would refuse to learn from a country which knew more than we do about this is a perfect example of xenophobic mindlessness.
    How many stomachs do you have? Does your ridiculous regurgitation of refuse, hurt your throat? Must be hard to spit that info back out with other things jamming your throat.



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    The governor of Ma, pleaded with Trump to stop outbidding governors for the things they need.
    His doing so, not only prevents them from getting needs equipment but also drives up the prices for all.
    Trump told them to get it done on their own but then stands in the middle so they can't
    Then says things like this regarding the governors who are asking for supplies,
    ďItís a two-way street,Ē Trump told Fox News on Tuesday. ďThey have to treat us well, also. They canít say, ĎOh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.íĒ

    So those who say the Dems shouldn't involve politics? How about the President holding back needed and life saving things to get political favors? Does that get in your craw the same way the extra pork was in the stimulus package?
    No? Hmm. Why not?



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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    He would be James Dolan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    The governor of Ma, pleaded with Trump to stop outbidding governors for the things they need.
    His doing so, not only prevents them from getting needs equipment but also drives up the prices for all.
    Trump told them to get it done on their own but then stands in the middle so they can't
    Then says things like
    ďItís a two-way street,Ē Trump told Fox News on Tuesday. ďThey have to treat us well, also. They canít say, ĎOh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.íĒ

    So those who say the Dems shouldn't involve politics? How about the President holding back needed and life saving things to get political favors? Does that get in your craw the same way the extra pork was in the stimulus package?
    No? Hmm. Why not?
    Those same governors had the last 5 years to address those shortfalls since it was known for that long that the states individually didnít have enough medical supplies . Why didnt they do anything until now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Trump just praised them too!! He said he "loves" Xi
    He said China "knows so much" about this and "Handled it very well"

    As for your definition of Communist and praising it, this is where you show just how ignorant you are.
    Freedom of speech is the first amendment. I would figure you didn't read all the way through that one

    Education involves thought. Which you clearly lack. Like a sheep. (And we know what all them orange farmers do to sheep on lonely nights)

    If you were able to actually think for yourself, you would see that I did in fact agree with China's system of government. I did not agree with anything they have done aside from handling the virus. They got it under control very, very quickly.
    I did not trash my country. I trashed the lack of response and pitiful blame game being played by the one person who should get this done by any means needed.
    We have more cases than China and we are on the rise. We have a president saying, things will be better in two weeks.

    Your backwoods, ethnocentric, head in the sand, hypocritical and ignorant perspective on this thing is hysterical and sad. The concept that you would refuse to learn from a country which knew more than we do about this is a perfect example of xenophobic mindlessness.
    How many stomachs do you have? Does your ridiculous regurgitation of refuse, hurt your throat? Must be hard to spit that info back out with other things jamming your throat.

    When trump criticized China for its handling of the virus at the start , trump was called racist and polarizing . Now that he is praising Chinaís leader after talking to him , he is accused of being in cahoots with China . He simply canít win with some of you people lol . Now as for my opinion on what trump just said there , I wouldnít have expected him to say any less . And again the fact that you believe the word of the same govt that lied and covered up everything about the virus just 2 months ago shows how you are in such lock step with the left media narrative that praises socialism and communism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    When trump criticized China for its handling of the virus at the start , trump was called racist and polarizing . Now that he is praising Chinaís leader after talking to him , he is accused of being in cahoots with China . He simply canít win with some of you people lol . Now as for my opinion on what trump just said there , I wouldnít have expected him to say any less . And again the fact that you believe the word of the same govt that lied and covered up everything about the virus just 2 months ago shows how you are in such lock step with the left media narrative that praises socialism and communism
    Do you have orange stains around your lips and mouth?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Those same governors had the last 5 years to address those shortfalls since it was known for that long that the states individually didnít have enough medical supplies . Why didnt they do anything until now?
    The federal government was warned about this possibility last year and did zero. This is a national crisis. What part of that don't you get? What part of the President putting aside his petty BS and lies to truly rake charge and help, don't you understand?
    You do realize almost every expert in this field interviewed has said the same? He is misleading everyone and this is going to destroy this country if he doesn't go into full lockdown.
    You choose to believe him over the experts because the experts are from the left? Lol. Talk about stupidity.
    I won't believe them or listen to them because they are liberal? That's genius. The idea that you find anything liberal to be un-patriotic shows your sheer lack of comprehension regarding, pretty much everything



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    The federal government was warned about this possibility last year and did zero. This is a national crisis. What part of that don't you get? What part of the President putting aside his petty BS and lies to truly rake charge and help, don't you understand?
    You do realize almost every expert in this field interviewed has said the same? He is misleading everyone and this is going to destroy this country if he doesn't go into full lockdown.
    You choose to believe him over the experts because the experts are from the left? Lol. Talk about stupidity.
    I won't believe them or listen to them because they are liberal? That's genius. The idea that you find anything liberal to be un-patriotic shows your sheer lack of comprehension regarding, pretty much everything
    You donít understand how much power the state governors have either . Why didnít any of them pressure their senators to do anything about this ? Why didnít they do anything on the state level about this ? Why were governors like Cuomo spending billions on failed projects instead of using those same billions towards buying or making their own gears ? Why didnít all those senators and congressmen draft bills addressing such issues?

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    So if I am understanding this correctly, $500B for big business is a sound investment.....BUT $1B to save American lives isn't?

    We were promised and told 1m tests by March 6. It's now March 27. We are barely above 500K, less than .17% of the US population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    After Considering $1 Billion Price Tag for Ventilators, White House Has Second Thoughts

    A deal with General Motors and Ventec Life Systems to produce tens of thousands of the critical lifesaving devices seemed imminent. Then the announcement was pulled back.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/u...ors-trump.html

    WTF?
    What a cherry picker you are Dr....

    How many trillions of dollars and you bring this article up?

    Really?

    You are no different than CNN

    You are basically using this forum to to try to sway votes for 2020 just like CNN does....

    Itís comical at times and this is not a time to be comical or political and the Dems are ALL POLITICAL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    You donít understand how much power the state governors have either . Why didnít any of them pressure their senators to do anything about this ? Why didnít they do anything on the state level about this ? Why were governors like Cuomo spending billions on failed projects instead of using those same billions towards buying or making their own gears ? Why didnít all those senators and congressmen draft bills addressing such issues?
    Hey genius, whoís the boss?

    Coumo was short sighted Stop living in the past and look at the present. There is nothing we can do to go back and change things. It starts now
    And the president is dropping g the ball as continues to mislead the public. He continues to use mafia style bargaining to force his agenda but I donít see you commenting on that. And that displays the type of person you are. Selfish, self serving and ignorant. Just like the pres. No wonder you canít see anything from another perspective. It would mean self evaluation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    What a cherry picker you are Dr....

    How many trillions of dollars and you bring this article up?

    Really?

    You are no different than CNN

    You are basically using this forum to to try to sway votes for 2020 just like CNN does....

    Itís comical at times and this is not a time to be comical or political and the Dems are ALL POLITICAL...

    $25 million for the Kennedy Center said it all!
    Nick think about what you just wrote.

    Is NYC a major hot spot? Do they need the ventilators yesterday? This is NO joke Nick, peoples lives are at stake. So who exactly is playing politics and settling a vendetta?

    You actually reinforce my point. Trillions of dollars in the bill and they are suddenly quibbling about a billion, ostensibly to benefit NYC.

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