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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    I understand Dr. But you sound too much like a CNN analysis.
    You have said some insulting things Nick, but this is by far one of the lowest blows!

    I don't watch TV very much. I read. Now that the Yanks aren't on I rarely turn the tube on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Can you prove that the violent rioters were truly in the minority in the protests that ended up violent ? I mean I don’t see how a minority of people could cause so much damage to require the national guard
    Can you prove otherwise?

    Look I am not minimizing the violence. I am not excusing the behavior. I condemn it. I cringe at the pics of NYC and the thought that my city (former life long resident) is being ripped apart and trashed by malcontents! But I also realize they are in the minority! A relatively small, but organized band of street smart thugs! They have no connection to the movement or protest other than seeing an opportunity. So I say again, you too quickly condemn the many based on the behavior of the few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Can you prove otherwise?

    Look I am not minimizing the violence. I am not excusing the behavior. I condemn it. I cringe at the pics of NYC and the thought that my city (former life long resident) is being ripped apart and trashed by malcontents! But I also realize they are in the minority! A relatively small, but organized band of street smart thugs! They have no connection to the movement or protest other than seeing an opportunity. So I say again, you too quickly condemn the many based on the behavior of the few.
    i guess the looters who are not organized.. just people on the streets looking to help themselves when they see a opportunity does that bother you at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Can you prove otherwise?

    Look I am not minimizing the violence. I am not excusing the behavior. I condemn it. I cringe at the pics of NYC and the thought that my city (former life long resident) is being ripped apart and trashed by malcontents! But I also realize they are in the minority! A relatively small, but organized band of street smart thugs! They have no connection to the movement or protest other than seeing an opportunity. So I say again, you too quickly condemn the many based on the behavior of the few.
    Well the fact that governors had felt the need to call the national guard leads me to believe that it’s more than just a minority of the protesters being the violent ones .

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    i guess the looters who are not organized.. just people on the streets looking to help themselves when they see a opportunity does that bother you at all?
    Am I the only one seeing the irony of dr saying he cringes at the destruction in nyc and his former city being destroyed but then saying its caused by small organized group of people ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I still find it hard to believe that it is just a minority that are ruining this movement .
    It is the agitators and the opportunist who wait on the sidelines and then react when the first brick is thrown through the window. Then the agitators got what they wanted and that is a total chaotic mess and then the actual movement is now lost in the dust.
    My favorite Top 10 Rolling Stones songs
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    It is the agitators and the opportunist who wait on the sidelines and then react when the first brick is thrown through the window. Then the agitators got what they wanted and that is a total chaotic mess and then the actual movement is now lost in the dust.
    Last I checked peaceful protestors don’t throw bricks either

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    You have said some insulting things Nick, but this is by far one of the lowest blows!

    I don't watch TV very much. I read. Now that the Yanks aren't on I rarely turn the tube on.
    Dr, I really wasn’t insulting you and I apologize if you took it like that. All I meant was they on CNN try to minimize the agitators agenda and that is wrong as well. Sorry, but you said few, figure of speech or not, few is obviously way off base.
    My favorite Top 10 Rolling Stones songs
    1. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo ( Heartbreaker)
    2. Gimme Shelter
    3. Miss You
    4. Angie
    5. Sympathy for the Devil
    6. Anybody seen my Baby
    7. Paint it Black
    8. Rock and a Hard Place
    9. (I can’t get no) Satisfaction
    10. Undercover of the Night


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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Can you prove otherwise?

    Look I am not minimizing the violence. I am not excusing the behavior. I condemn it. I cringe at the pics of NYC and the thought that my city (former life long resident) is being ripped apart and trashed by malcontents! But I also realize they are in the minority! A relatively small, but organized band of street smart thugs! They have no connection to the movement or protest other than seeing an opportunity. So I say again, you too quickly condemn the many based on the behavior of the few.

    Dr, they are obviously larger than what you believe. They come to every city or to every protest and start the dust ups. I can only imagine the peaceful protesters who get annoyed at this as well....

    Dr, unfortunately in some ways perception is reality.


    Nobody is condemning the peaceful protesters. I have not. Jorge has not.

    It is the agitators and the opportunists and unfortunately that swells into a larger number that makes it look worse and it creates even MORE DIVIDE in this Country.
    Last edited by rrzubnyy; 06-02-2020 at 10:07 AM.
    My favorite Top 10 Rolling Stones songs
    1. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo ( Heartbreaker)
    2. Gimme Shelter
    3. Miss You
    4. Angie
    5. Sympathy for the Devil
    6. Anybody seen my Baby
    7. Paint it Black
    8. Rock and a Hard Place
    9. (I can’t get no) Satisfaction
    10. Undercover of the Night


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    “They turned holy ground into a battleground,” said the Rev. Gini Gerbasi.

    Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a different Saint John’s Episcopal Church in Georgetown, arrived at St. John’s Lafayette earlier that day with what she said were at least 20 other priests and a group of laypeople. They were organized by the Episcopal Diocese of Washington to serve as a “peaceful presence in support of protestors.”

    The volunteers and clergy offered water, snacks, and hand sanitizer to demonstrators who were gathered in Lafayette Park across the street — which sits directly in front of the White House — to denounce racism and police brutality following the death of George Floyd.

    But sometime after six in the evening, when volunteers were packing up supplies, Gerbasi said police suddenly began to expel demonstrators from the park — before the 7:00 pm curfew announced for Washington residents earlier in the day.

    “I was suddenly coughing from the tear gas,” she said. “We heard those explosions and people would drop to the ground because you weren't sure what it was.”

    The Rev. Glenna J. Huber, the rector of the Church of the Epiphany who was at St. John's but left as the National Guard arrived, said she watched as police rushed into the area she had just fled. Concerned, the priest sent a frantic email to clergy at the church urging them to be careful.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Am I the only one seeing the irony of dr saying he cringes at the destruction in nyc and his former city being destroyed but then saying its caused by small organized group of people ?
    You are the only one painting with the broadest brush possible. You see what you want.

    Yes my heart broke seeing the destruction and violence. But I am NOT willing to condemn the entire movement as violent malcontents. Yes they are organized and the effort coordinated. They are working in relatively small packs. I refer only to the looters. There are others defacing property and setting fires. This may be a larger group, but by NO means a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I find it so hypocritical of anyone calling trump’s response to all the violence at the protests as weak and lacking of leadership meanwhile you got city and state leaders all over the country sitting there doing nothing while their big cities burn down and get looted .
    It isn't hypocritical simply because you can't comprehend.

    I don't think the mayors or governors are weak.

    I think the president is weak. He lacks any ability to anything other than threaten. They has been his entire schtick throughout his presidency.
    When all you can do is yell, you will only get so far and your voice will eventually go unheard



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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    And that is what will happen for another 200 years.....it is just a never ending cycle. But Trump caused it all and should be solely blamed.

    Talking about defect?

    The leaders of the cities just basically hide and let Trump take it all....

    And I know he is the President but just saying responsibility should be shared during crisis like this....

    And this all goes back 200 years and NOTHING WAS EVER DONE since besides Lincoln’s leadership.

    Nice try Mush. There you go again with the poor trump, he caused it all, crap.

    Not one person said he caused anything. Not one.

    What he has caused is a bigger division in the country by his language and inability to actually lead.

    Seriously, do you hear how whiney your are?

    They will say Trump caused it. Wahhhhhh. Wahhhhhh.

    No one said that.

    Twist that little narrative. It's getting smaller and smaller, so you will need to twist harder and harder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Dr, they are obviously larger than what you believe. They come to every city or to every protest and start the dust ups. I can only imagine the peaceful protesters who get annoyed at this as well....

    Dr, unfortunately in some ways perception is reality.


    Nobody is condemning the peaceful protesters. I have not. Jorge has not.

    It is the agitators and the opportunists and unfortunately that swells into a larger number that makes it look worse and it creates even MORE DIVIDE in this Country.
    Where is the leadership? What has he done to heal? Instead he fans the flames with his ignorant nonsense.
    Who is more responsible for the divisiveness than he? He has driven a wedge between us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Of course, The Dr just minimizes it because he tries to deflect it all to Trump.

    Look, we all know social injustice exists everywhere in this world. But this is all Trump’s fault.
    You arguments are so very sad and weak. Playing the victim just like your hero.
    You keep saying you don't like him but you certainly love to help him play the "poor donnie" card.

    Poor donnie, they blame him for everything wrong with the country. He isn't strong enough or smart enough to cause all of it so he certainly can't do anything to start it. He's a little lamb, lost in the woods. He gets all the bad luck.
    Poor donnie.

    Mush, do you need a violin to keep singing the sad donnie song?


    Because again, stop with the trumping victim blaming crap.

    Covid was not his fault
    George Floyd was not his fault

    Some people are handed situations like those and move with an element go grace, compassion and humility.
    Others like this twat, move with ineffective bravado and in insulting lack of accountability, remorse and honesty.

    Trump's response is the problem. What about that don't you understand?

    Is it the same reason you don't understand the meaning of unconscious bias and its role in systemic racism?

    That reason? Yo don't want to understand because you are in fact, part of the problem.



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