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    Quote Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22 View Post
    ..... I don’t think the President is the best person but I don’t assume he is out to harm people. From what I’ve seen, most democratic politicians don’t seem to care who they railroad in order to help their agendas.

    For example, when Pelosi has “we need to work on fixing DACA or health care for illegals”, I don’t assume she wants to hurt the American ppl. I don’t agree with her but I don’t see her as evil. When trump says we need to deport illegal criminals, he is called a racist and not caring about ppl. When the democrats try to rewrite an election bc they lost to someone not in their circle with no evidence or cause. I find that as evil. To ruin ppl’s lives without any care when they didn’t do anything wrong, that is evil.


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    Really?

    Republicans have no problem exploding the deficit to deliver $2 trillion in tax cuts for their wealthy donors and benefactors, but can't find the money to support the 40 percent of low-income households who lost their jobs in March.

    That should tell you all you need to know about the GOP's priorities and agenda.

    Trump also encourages the faithful (true patriots) to die in order to rescue the economy (and hence his presidency).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    1- No. It is not his house. It is our house, he just lives there.
    He also has many people working in the whitehouse. Does the president have the responsibility to protect those around him? Especially if we do?

    What about when he's not in the whitehouse?
    Just to make it known, everyone entering the whitehouse has to be tested. I think the press has to wear masks because they are constantly in and out.

    And yes, I saw he wasn’t wearing a mask in the masking wearing plant in Allentown PA today. My guess would be because he knows he doesn’t have it


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    *Some* GOP: Pro life, until born.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    *Some* GOP: Pro life, until born.

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    True, you know I prayed outside of abortion clinics but not to see immigtant children in cages.

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    Jersey, callling people evil really ? That type of depersonilization is really bad. That type of labeling can easily be done away with when you turn off right wing tv and radio for one month. I turned that filth off and my mind was better. I think I am done with the Republican party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    True, you know I prayed outside of abortion clinics but not to see immigtant children in cages.
    It's very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22 View Post
    What is your clear evidence? That he is CONSTANTLY misleading the public? Not that I’m arguing but just want to know what the evidence is.

    And I didn’t address it earlier, but listen to what he said... he didn’t say the Virus was a hoax. He said the democrats will try to use it against him which would be a hoax


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    Where did i mention anything about a hoax in that post? Are you going to argue that the president didn't downplay the virus?

    I can't believe I have to do this because if you were paying attention it should be fairly obvious

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

    On 29 February: "We've taken the most aggressive actions to confront the coronavirus. They are the most aggressive taken by any country."
    On 7 March: "Very soon, we're going to come up [with a vaccine].
    April 7: If the economic shutdown continues, deaths by suicide “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about” for COVID-19 deaths.
    The truth: The White House now estimates that anywhere from 100,000 to 240,000 Americans could die from COVID-19. Other estimates have placed the number at 1.1 million to 1.2 million. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, suicide is one of the leading causes of death in the United States. But the number of people who died by suicide in 2017, for example, was roughly 47,000, nowhere near the COVID-19 estimates. Estimates of the mental-health toll of the Great Recession are mixed. A 2014 study tied more than 10,000 suicides in Europe and North America to the financial crisis. But a larger analysis in 2017 found that while the rate of suicide was increasing in the United States, the increase could not be directly tied to the recession and was attributable to broader socioeconomic conditions predating the downturn.
    Monday, May 11, and Tuesday, May 12
    The claim: “Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”
    The truth: Coronavirus cases are either increasing or plateauing in the majority of American states. Increases in state-level testing do account for some of the increase in cases, and on average, the country’s positive-test rate is lower than it was in March and April. But those numbers obscure the situation in eight states where cases are increasing
    Friday, March 6, and Monday, May 11
    The claim: “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. We—they’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful” and “If somebody wants to be tested right now, they’ll be able to be tested.”
    The truth: Trump made these two claims two months apart, but the truth is still the same: The U.S. does not have enough testing.
    The claim: Google engineers are building a website to help Americans determine whether they need testing for the coronavirus and to direct them to their nearest testing site.
    The truth: The announcement was news to Google itself—the website Trump (and other administration officials) described was actually being built by Verily, a division of Alphabet, the parent company of Google. The Verge first reported on Trump’s error, citing a Google representative who confirmed that Verily was working on a “triage website” with limited coverage for the San Francisco Bay Area. But since then, Google has pivoted to fulfill Trump’s public proclamation, saying it would speed up the development of a new, separate website while Verily worked on finishing its project, The Washington Post reported.
    When: Tuesday, March 24, and Wednesday, March 25
    The claim: The United States has outpaced South Korea’s COVID-19 testing: “We’re going up proportionally very rapidly,” Trump said during a Fox News town hall.
    The truth: When the president made this claim, testing in the U.S. was severely lagging behind that in South Korea. As of March 25, South Korea had conducted about five times as many tests as a proportion of its population relative to the United States. For updated data from each country, see the COVID-19 Tracking Project and the database maintained by the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Date: Monday, May 11

    The claim: America has “developed a testing capacity unmatched and unrivaled anywhere in the world, and it’s not even close.”
    The truth: The United States is still not testing enough people and is lagging behind the testing and tracing capabilities that other countries have developed. The president’s testing czar, Brett Giroir, and Fauci confirmed the need for more testing at a May 12 Senate hearing too. They said that the country won’t be able to perform 50 million tests, about what the country needs to safely reopen, until the fall.
    On Taking the Pandemic Seriously

    When: Tuesday, March 17
    The claim: “I’ve always known this is a real—this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic … I’ve always viewed it as very serious.”
    The truth: Trump has repeatedly downplayed the significance of COVID-19 as outbreaks began stateside. From calling criticism of his handling of the virus a “hoax,” to comparing the coronavirus to a common flu, to worrying about letting sick Americans off cruise ships because they would increase the number of confirmed cases, Trump has used his public statements to send mixed messages and sow doubt about the outbreak’s seriousness.
    Date: Friday, May 8
    The claim: The coronavirus is “going to go away without a vaccine … and we’re not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time.”
    The truth: Fauci has repeatedly said, including during a Senate hearing on May 12, that the coronavirus’s sudden disappearance “is just not going to happen.” Until the country has “a scientifically sound, safe, and effective vaccine,” Fauci said last month, the pandemic will not be over.
    Do you want more? How do you not notice? Are you paying attention at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Where did i mention anything about a hoax in that post? Are you going to argue that the president didn't downplay the virus?

    I can't believe I have to do this because if you were paying attention it should be fairly obvious

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

    Do you want more?
    Save the pixels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Save the pixels.
    I just don't understand how anyone could actually ask how the president is misinforming Americans? It's ridiculous. Stop wearing the MAGA hat and pay attention.

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    Today Trump made it very clear during his "rally" in Pa. : TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." This is the president of the US, the leader of the free world?

    Follow the logic, we have more cases because we test more. No, we have more cases because we had a piss poor response.

    I can only assume if we didn't test it would just magically disappear.
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    We also have more cases bc America is too good to comply w the stay at home orders. Our citizens ain't got time for that. We need to wash our cars and get our hair cut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    We also have more cases bc America is too good to comply w the stay at home orders. Our citizens ain't got time for that. We need to wash our cars and get our hair cut!
    Bull spit!

    My car needs to be washed 4x week! I paid 25 dollars a month for it!

    I'll be dammed if the car wash is gonna make money off me!

    I love removing my cars clear coat with excessive washing!

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    Bull spit!

    My car needs to be washed 4x week! I paid 25 dollars a month for it!

    I'll be dammed if the car wash is gonna make money off me!

    I love removing my cars clear coat with excessive washing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Today Trump made it very clear during his "rally" in Pa. : TRUMP: "When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." This is the president of the US, the leader of the free world?

    Follow the logic, we have more cases because we test more. No, we have more cases because we had a piss poor response.

    I can only assume if we didn't test it would just magically disappear.
    He's a moron. He just thinks it will go away on its own and that lack of available tests equates to lack of positive tests. Smaller number of confirmed positive cases means its not that serious. If this is his response when 85 thousand people are dead in this country the last 3 months, why is so hard for people to accept that he downplayed it and didn't take it with the seriousness it deserved?

    His base will continue excusing him though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    He's a moron. He just thinks it will go away on its own and that testing is not important. If this is his response when 85 thousand people are dead in this country the last 3 months, why is so hard for people to accept that he downplayed it and didn't take it with the seriousness it deserved?

    His base will continue excusing him though.
    My anger and outrage has mellowed to an incredulous numbness. My wife refuses to listen.Maybe she has a point.

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