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  1. #2296
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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    Oh do any of you wake up with Covid symptoms after watching the news ... .? I woke up with a sore throat, Yet, it passed after having a cup of ginger tea. I am taking a day off and going to just friggin sleep today. Take a fresh ginger, slice it in long chunks, put on stove with a pot of water, and boil with a stick of cinnamon and enjoy. The ginger also has other benefits for the male function response, which is good for the wife. Enjoy the tea.

    Yep. I have chalked it up to allergies.

    Honestly, I would be thrilled if I had had Covid and it was that mild, as it is in many cases.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Yep. I have chalked it up to allergies.

    Honestly, I would be thrilled if I had had Covid and it was that mild, as it is in many cases.
    when they say a mild case of coronavirus they mean that does not require hospital intervention.. but we know many people who do not require hospital intervention are very sick with covid 19 much sicker then they ever was with the flu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    when they say a mild case of coronavirus they mean that does not require hospital intervention.. but we know many people who do not require hospital intervention are very sick with covid 19 much sicker then they ever was with the flu...

    If the unhospitalized were sicker than with the flu they would need to be in the hospital since they would have fever , trouble breathing , and not being able to move .

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    Hmm Fauci is saying next month is the target to start reopening the economy . Question is , will anyone call him irresponsible and a liar ? I mean trump said the same thing a few days ago .
    https://www.westernjournal.com/dr-fa...ening-economy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Hmm Fauci is saying next month is the target to start reopening the economy . Question is , will anyone call him irresponsible and a liar ? I mean trump said the same thing a few days ago .
    https://www.westernjournal.com/dr-fa...ening-economy/
    Is that what he said Jorge? I know math is an issue, but reading comprehension too?

    "“If you just say, ‘OK, it’s whatever, May 1, click, turn — turn the switch on,’ obviously, if you do it in an all-or-none way, there’s an extraordinary risk of there being a rebound,” he said, adding, “And that’s why I mean it is not an all or none. It’s going to be something that you gradually and carefully, in different parts of the country in different ways, try to get back.

    “I totally I agree if that, all of a sudden, we decide, ‘OK, it’s May whatever,’ and we just turn the switch on, that could be a real problem. And everybody knows that. So, it’s going to be something different from that. It’s going to be a concerted way to take a look and try doing it appropriately, depending upon where you are in the country and what the nature of the outbreak is in that part of the country.”

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    To clarify. States like Nebraska, Vermont, Maine, North Dakota, Wyoming, West Virginia ect, that are fairly rural with low population density and low reported cases are more likely to open up sooner than the hot spots. It would be foolish to assume the entire country is on the same time table. What I believe Fauci is alluding to in his admonition to move gradually and carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Is that what he said Jorge? I know math is an issue, but reading comprehension too?

    "“If you just say, ‘OK, it’s whatever, May 1, click, turn — turn the switch on,’ obviously, if you do it in an all-or-none way, there’s an extraordinary risk of there being a rebound,” he said, adding, “And that’s why I mean it is not an all or none. It’s going to be something that you gradually and carefully, in different parts of the country in different ways, try to get back.

    “I totally I agree if that, all of a sudden, we decide, ‘OK, it’s May whatever,’ and we just turn the switch on, that could be a real problem. And everybody knows that. So, it’s going to be something different from that. It’s going to be a concerted way to take a look and try doing it appropriately, depending upon where you are in the country and what the nature of the outbreak is in that part of the country.”
    Fauci suggested some steps could take place in May.

    “I think it could probably start, at least in some ways, maybe next month,” he said. “And, again, Jake, it’s so difficult to make those kinds of predictions, because they always get thrown back at you if it doesn’t happen, not by you, but, you know, by any of a number of people.” There he is saying next month things could start reopening the economy , that’s what trump has been saying . And now trump is saying he is gonna let the governors decide when to reopen .

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    Dr. Dena Grayson
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    @FEMA & @CDCgov’s draft strategy to reopen says even a cautious/phased approach entails a “significant risk of resurgence” of #coronavirus & warns of a “large rebound curve” of #COVID19 if mitigation is relaxed before vaccines or herd immunity occur. https://www.washingtonpost.com/

    Critical to this plan would be widespread serology testing, which detects #antibodies to #coronavirus in the blood.

    Yet @realDonaldTrump says we don’t need to ramp up testing, and the number of #COVID19 tests analyzed daily by labs *plummeted more than 30%* over the last week.

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    Opinion
    The Huge Cost of Waiting to Contain the Pandemic
    As the numbers show, the timing of social distancing can have an enormous impact on death tolls.

    By Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell
    The writers are epidemiologists.

    April 14, 2020

    On March 16, the White House issued initial social distancing guidelines, including closing schools and avoiding groups of more than 10. But an estimated 90 percent of the cumulative deaths in the United States from Covid-19, at least from the first wave of the epidemic, might have been prevented by putting social distancing policies into effect two weeks earlier, on March 2, when there were only 11 deaths in the entire country. The effect would have been substantial had the policies been imposed even one week earlier, on March 9, resulting in approximately a 60 percent reduction in deaths.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/o...istancing.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    If the unhospitalized were sicker than with the flu they would need to be in the hospital since they would have fever , trouble breathing , and not being able to move .
    many people can have a low grade fever for days without going to the hospital along with body aches unable to leave there bed.. worst then any flu symptoms and not have to be hospitalized with covid 19.. the british pm for more than 5 days had such symptoms before going to hospital along with tom hanks and chris cuomo the governor brother..only when breathing is a issue unless you have a serious high fever should a hospital be mandatory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Opinion
    The Huge Cost of Waiting to Contain the Pandemic
    As the numbers show, the timing of social distancing can have an enormous impact on death tolls.

    By Britta L. Jewell and Nicholas P. Jewell
    The writers are epidemiologists.

    April 14, 2020

    On March 16, the White House issued initial social distancing guidelines, including closing schools and avoiding groups of more than 10. But an estimated 90 percent of the cumulative deaths in the United States from Covid-19, at least from the first wave of the epidemic, might have been prevented by putting social distancing policies into effect two weeks earlier, on March 2, when there were only 11 deaths in the entire country. The effect would have been substantial had the policies been imposed even one week earlier, on March 9, resulting in approximately a 60 percent reduction in deaths.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/o...istancing.html
    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post

    The dude deserves all the criticism he gets. He's the leader of this country and leader of the free world if you take into account that America is still far and away the biggest economic superpower. His (along with others) ineptitude and inaction has caused the deaths of thousands of people.
    Too bad none of us said that 3 days ago. Absolutely had local, state and federal leaders taken action sooner, we could have saved thousands of lives. It would have slowed the spread and put us on a path to more normality sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Fauci suggested some steps could take place in May.

    “I think it could probably start, at least in some ways, maybe next month,” he said. “And, again, Jake, it’s so difficult to make those kinds of predictions, because they always get thrown back at you if it doesn’t happen, not by you, but, you know, by any of a number of people.” There he is saying next month things could start reopening the economy , that’s what trump has been saying . And now trump is saying he is gonna let the governors decide when to reopen .
    He said "maybe". This is a continually fluid situation. That could change depending on how the virus continues spreading, where new hot spots pop up, etc. Like drt said, there are going to be states that open up quicker because lack of population has led to less enumerated cases but forget states like California, NY, NJ, Florida, etc. Those states are going take significantly more time and with different guidelines in place.

    Trump should absolutely leave it to individual states to make those decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Fauci suggested some steps could take place in May.

    “I think it could probably start, at least in some ways, maybe next month,” he said. “And, again, Jake, it’s so difficult to make those kinds of predictions, because they always get thrown back at you if it doesn’t happen, not by you, but, you know, by any of a number of people.” There he is saying next month things could start reopening the economy , that’s what trump has been saying . And now trump is saying he is gonna let the governors decide when to reopen .
    As I suggested in my follow up clarification, some states. As Fauci suggests gradually and carefully. The science and the numbers will dictate. A second wave, which could be even more severe is always a possibility. Slow and steady wins the race.

    It was always the governors call, not the presidents. He finally realizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    People overreact to what Trump says.

    Do you really think he is opening up the economy on May 1 if the virus is still running rampant?

    Come on....it is called a goal. The Mets and Yankees have goals every season why can’t The President?

    A goal doesn’t mean it will happen.

    What is funny is if Obama had set May 1 as a goal the backlash would have been slim and none.....he would have been awarded “courage” from the loving media.

    No matter what Trump does or says it will always be scrutinized to no end. And the May 1 is perfect example.

    The opposition is hilarious with their presumption statements that 99% of the time never happens.

    May 1 is not happening. Geez, I’m not the President and do not have info like what they get and I can figure it out right now that May 1 is not happening.
    I don't know what that idiot is capable of. I think he's prepared to reopen the economy before signing another trillion dollar stimulus bill which is disgustingly irresponsible. You're talking about a country that has had a negative debt to GDP since Bill Clinton was in office (Trump has increased that ratio btw) and we're going to complain about spending money now?

    If there needs to be more legislation passed to keep people on their feet so be it. They are quick to bailout the airlines, cruiseliners, and big businesses (similar to 2008). Help American people.

    May 1st was just hyperbole but i do believe if Trump thought was a pathway to do it that soon, he would. Now he's backing off and leaving it to the governors but 2 days ago, he was the ultimate authority on when the economy should reopen.

    No Obama wouldn't consider something so irresponsible. This is singularly a Trump thing. He's so focused on business and the economy that he either ignores or doesn't understand the human toll this takes and will continue taking if he makes a rash decision. Look, we all understand the economy needs to get going. We understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Because people are at least somewhat adhering to strategies put in place.. We are not through this Mush. We are not close.
    Things look like they are slowing for sure and that's a really good sign but look at RC's post.
    I disagree.

    Curve is happening


    We will be over this crap by May 15

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