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  1. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    A bit of light thinking, I wonder how many new babies will born in November/December, because of the lockdown and well, what do people do when they are stuck inside...?
    I wonder if the amount of new life will be greater or less than the life lost?
    LOL I was having this discussion with my wife last night. During blackouts in NYC they see a spike in the birth rate, I imagine we see a spike nationally as a result of any lockdown.


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    I wish I could be as relaxed as you guys are .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    The peak is when we will know how bad it is. Hopefully we flatten that curve with all of the precautionary measures so far.

    Dr, how are you doing? We may disagree with politics but we are still like one big family on this forum. Hope all stays safe.

    And I still think something this bad is man made. The death rate is very alarming and that is why I say that somebody created this stuff.

    And why in 2020 when technology is at its highest can a virus like this strangle the World?

    Why didn't something like this pop out in say 1965 when it was harder to knock a virus out?

    From the Spanish flu(1917)-2020 nothing has ever been this bad GLOBALLY, nothing that is this contagious by touching something or getting a droplet from a sneeze. It had to be manufactured by man IMO.

    I’m not a conspiracy theorist but things I read make me turn my head a little.

    And it takes a full 12-18 months to develop a vaccine? Really?

    We could all be dead by that time.
    It's not necassarily the development, it's the testing and clinical trials required to prove safety and efficacy.

    A covid-19 vaccine developed, licensed, and manufactured at a global scale in twelve months would be an unprecedented, remarkable, even revolutionary achievement, as stated by Fauci recently. No other vaccine has come close to being developed that quickly.

    >>John Shiver, the global head of vaccine research and development at the multinational pharmaceutical company Sanofi, which is developing a covid-19 vaccine, was at the meeting with Trump. “There was some confusion there,” Shiver said, that certain officials did not understand that “being in people,” as in human trials, is not the same as having a product. Clinical trials are conducted on healthy people, which is inherently challenging. “You certainly don’t want a vaccine that can make it worse,” Shiver said. “There have been some vaccine candidates historically that could actually enhance the disease.” Sanofi is working with the United States Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, a sort of biomedical darpa, to advance a covid-19 vaccine based largely on the vaccine candidate it had developed for sars. Shiver told me that the authority doesn’t expect to have anything ready for human trials until much later this year. “It’s difficult,” Shiver said, “to see how, even in the case of an emergency, a vaccine could be fully ready for licensure in a year and a half.”

    The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (cepi), an Oslo-based nonprofit organization, was established at Davos, in 2017, to help the world prepare for a “disease X” pandemic. One of its aims is to dramatically hasten the process of vaccine development. To create a viable, scalable vaccine “takes vast amounts of funding and R. & D.,” Rachel Grant, the advocacy and communications director at cepi, told me. “It is a long and complex business. It’s all doable, science can meet the challenges, but there is lots of attrition” before any vaccine gets to the point of licensure. The problem is twofold. First, there may never be a market for a vaccine at the end of the development process, because the epidemic is contained, or never comes to pass. Then, traditionally, if there is an epidemic, it may take hold in a developing country where the costs of research and development cannot be recouped. “The resources and expertise sit in biotech and pharma, and they’ve got their business model,” Grant said. “They’re not charities. They can’t do this stuff for free.”

    The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (cepi), with funding from the government of Norway, the Gates Foundation, the Wellcome Trust, and several other countries (the United States is not among them), is trying to bridge the gap. The challenge of vaccine development is “what cepi was set up to solve,” Grant told me, “played out writ large in an episode like this.” Since the novel coronavirus emerged, cepi has ramped up its grant-making expenditures to more than nineteen million dollars. Two grant recipients—a Massachusetts-based biotech startup named Moderna and a lab at the University of Queensland, in Brisbane, Australia—have, remarkably, already developed a vaccine candidate that they will start testing in human trials in the next few months, and another biotech startup supported by cepi is not far behind. But, ultimately, to get three different vaccines through the final phase of clinical testing, Nick Jackson, cepi’s head of programs and innovative technology, told me, will require an estimated two billion dollars. >>

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...avirus-vaccine


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    Interesting info

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    Italy didn’t have travel ban we had with regards to China.
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    I love how the critics are all MONDAY MORNING QB’s with this crisis.

    They All have the answers and they can do it better.

    What a bunch of idiots!

    Especially the former Obama administration members....

    The Ebola czar with Obama just criticizes Trump but won’t dare to mention the 1000 swine flu deaths under the Obama watch before he REALLY reacted.
    Last edited by rrzubnyy; 03-20-2020 at 12:49 PM.
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    Nicky!!! Turn off the TV. Go outside and take a walk / jog. Ride your bike. Chip / pitch some balls in the backyard. Do you fish? Great way to get your mind off things. Go for a drive.

    Relax my friend. Please.


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    Cuomo just wrecked the Dow today!

    It was up over 300

    And it sank within 5 minutes of him talking

    Thanks!
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Nicky!!! Turn off the TV. Go outside and take a walk / jog. Ride your bike. Chip / pitch some balls in the backyard. Do you fish? Great way to get your mind off things. Go for a drive.

    Relax my friend. Please.

    I am scared too and at times I feel like I am gonna lose it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I am scared too and at times I feel like I am gonna lose it
    What are you afraid of? Stay inside and you'll be fine.

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    Trump is thanking everybody for getting along....

    Too bad the critics don’t follow suit
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    What are you afraid of? Stay inside and you'll be fine.
    I am afraid of anarchy , running out of food . And the world coming to an end from this

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    Terrific statement by Trump today.

    Now that is a leader that needs to be around til 2024!

    War time leaders usually get re-elected so this is good news.
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I am scared too and at times I feel like I am gonna lose it
    I’m playing golf, playing PS4, My baseball Out of The Park simulation game, watching movies with the lady, washing the vehicle, watching the Stock Market, ect.....
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I am afraid of anarchy , running out of food . And the world coming to an end from this
    If the death rate was higher then you’d have a point.....

    We must help each other out.

    We are all in this together bro...

    Relax goddamn it!

    We will get through this and once the peak hits we can see normal activities getting closer again...

    I feel MLB will start June 1
    Probably the best Pearl Jam concert performance
    PINKPOP 1992

    1. Even Flow
    2. Why Go
    3. Jeremy
    4. Alive
    5. Black
    6.Leash
    7.Once
    8. Porch
    9. Rockin the Free World


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