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  1. #1636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Anyone get the feeling Trump’s family purchased stock in hydrochloroquine?

    Citizens for Ethics @CREWcrew

    A Pharma-funded group tied to a top Trump donor has been pushing Trump to approve the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19. https://readsludge.com/2020/04/06/ph...the-president/

    Close enough.
    “Farts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” — Aldous Huxley
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Citizens for Ethics @CREWcrew

    A Pharma-funded group tied to a top Trump donor has been pushing Trump to approve the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19. https://readsludge.com/2020/04/06/ph...the-president/

    Close enough.
    More conspiracy theories. The president would never do anything to help his business or the businesses of his friends. Shame on you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    It's incredibly irresponsible and dangerous for the president to be pushing any medication as a form of treatment for this virus. Everything that comes out of his mouth is verbal diarrhea i swear.

    Now that post is a classic case of verbal diarrhea . Those medications were proven to work in Europe last month . Then there is cuomo approving trials of those same meds in nyc less than 2 weeks ago .

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...ay-cuomo-says/

    But yeah now that trump is touting it , there must be some kind of conspiracy where trump is profiting from this or that he is full of crap and the meds shouldn’t be tried . The blind hatred for trump just causes people to lose their damned minds

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    More conspiracy theories. The president would never do anything to help his business or the businesses of his friends. Shame on you .
    Oops my bad. Apologies.

    Well I guess I shouldn't mention the specific oversight written into the stimulus bill.

    Or Trump Tower Moscow deal during his presidential campaign? He also may have considered offering Putin a $50 million penthouse, underscoring the potential role of business interests in the Trump-Putin connection.

    Similarly, in Saudi Arabia, Trump continues to deny the involvement of crown prince Mohammed bin Salman in the murder of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi – going, yet again, against US intelligence reports. At the same time, it’s been reported that he has numerous business deals with the country and has made tens of millions not only from Saudi investors, but from the government as well.

    But wait there more....lots more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Wow talk about conspiracy theories, it’s garbage posts like those that I was talking about before when I stated why I was staying away from this thread .
    Yes. I hate when Garbage posts like this are made. I agree

    You do know that a bunch of senators and congressmen dumped their stocks just before the market crashed? That’s not conspiracy. It’s fact. They used inside info as to what the president was going to do, to profit
    That’s a fact
    It’s disgusting they did it but I’m guessing you are ok with it

    The idea that a professional “businessman “ might set his family and others up for profit by pushing a drug that has very little empirical data to back it is garbage?
    Why is it garbage as a thought? Because you didn’t think of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Now that post is a classic case of verbal diarrhea . Those medications were proven to work in Europe last month . Then there is cuomo approving trials of those same meds in nyc less than 2 weeks ago .

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...ay-cuomo-says/

    But yeah now that trump is touting it , there must be some kind of conspiracy where trump is profiting from this or that he is full of crap and the meds shouldn’t be tried . The blind hatred for trump just causes people to lose their damned minds
    Genius, if the drug was a sure thing, don’t you think they’d be filling the hospitals with it?

    It has had a small amount of success. It has not worked on everyone tested
    It’s that simple
    It helps some it hurts others
    If it was sure fire and ready for wide use, we would be making it by the boatload as would every other country

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Citizens for Ethics @CREWcrew

    A Pharma-funded group tied to a top Trump donor has been pushing Trump to approve the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID-19. https://readsludge.com/2020/04/06/ph...the-president/

    Close enough.
    That’s all I was saying. He’s pushing it for a reason and that reason is likely money and approval

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Now that post is a classic case of verbal diarrhea . Those medications were proven to work in Europe last month . Then there is cuomo approving trials of those same meds in nyc less than 2 weeks ago .

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...ay-cuomo-says/

    But yeah now that trump is touting it , there must be some kind of conspiracy where trump is profiting from this or that he is full of crap and the meds shouldn’t be tried . The blind hatred for trump just causes people to lose their damned minds
    Jorge I believe I was the first to mention the small French study, possibly before even Trump. The issue is Trumps cavalier approach. He is desperate to save himself from this disaster. He is looking for a magic bullet, a panacea. HDC and z pacs are not. Many in the medical community have suggested caution, Trump has thrown caution to the wind. There are concerns with side effect and heart arrhythmia when the two drugs are combined.

    There is a fairly large sample being tested as we speak being studied in NYC. The results should be known very soon. The combo has been approved for compassionate off label use. There is anecdotal evidence that it works in some patients, however too small a sample. It may prove to be an effective tx., we can only hope.
    “Farts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” — Aldous Huxley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Want to know something more unbelievable ? Mr Fauci the guy who seems to used as a source to attack trump , said 3 months ago that the virus was no big deal

    https://www.gopusa.com/anuary-2020-a...o-worry-about/
    Read down after the entire two paragraphs you are citing. It says
    “Excerpt from The Hill”

    So it’s not the whole conversation
    Its also written by GOPUSA, so maybe a tiny slant towards Donnie

    I’ll tell you what, I’ll be impressed if you actually read the entire article instead of simply citing a sentence in an entire interview

    Also, you just did exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing, so you are a hypocrite
    But you’ve been on so many times that maybe it’s canceled it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Jorge I believe I was the first to mention the small French study, possibly before even Trump. The issue is Trumps cavalier approach. He is desperate to save himself from this disaster. He is looking for a magic bullet, a panacea. HDC and z pacs are not. Many in the medical community have suggested caution, Trump has thrown caution to the wind. There are concerns with side effect and heart arrhythmia when the two drugs are combined.

    There is a fairly large sample being tested as we speak being studied in NYC. The results should be known very soon. The combo has been approved for compassionate off label use. There is anecdotal evidence that it works in some patients, however too small a sample. It may prove to be an effective tx., we can only hope.
    I was replying to the posts that no medications should be used and that trump is somehow profiting from those drugs . I pointed it out how those drugs were pushed by others weeks ago before trump started pushing to use them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I was replying to the posts that no medications should be used and that trump is somehow profiting from those drugs . I pointed it out how those drugs were pushed by others weeks ago before trump started pushing to use them
    He very well may be. He is touting them like a used car huckster! I think what people are objecting to is his repeated endorsement of a yet unproven drug combo contrary to his own experts! Most professionals will not hang their hat on anecdotal evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Genius, if the drug was a sure thing, don’t you think they’d be filling the hospitals with it?

    It has had a small amount of success. It has not worked on everyone tested
    It’s that simple
    It helps some it hurts others
    If it was sure fire and ready for wide use, we would be making it by the boatload as would every other country
    Scary that even needs to be said btw. Like if it was some kind of miracle cure we would be letting thousands of people die a day why?

    The president should by no means endorsing something like that. He's not a doctor, it hasn't been recommended by the medical community as a safe treatment, etc.

    Clinical trials are exactly that and at the end of the day, they are looking for something that will fight this virus so of course there will be exploratory measures. That doesn't mean it should be talked about as a potential treatment or cure. Its misinformation and potentially dangerous misinformation if people start thinking this will stem the tide.
    Last edited by metswon69; 04-06-2020 at 07:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Yes. I hate when Garbage posts like this are made. I agree

    You do know that a bunch of senators and congressmen dumped their stocks just before the market crashed? That’s not conspiracy. It’s fact. They used inside info as to what the president was going to do, to profit
    That’s a fact
    It’s disgusting they did it but I’m guessing you are ok with it

    The idea that a professional “businessman “ might set his family and others up for profit by pushing a drug that has very little empirical data to back it is garbage?
    Why is it garbage as a thought? Because you didn’t think of it?
    Yeah I know about the stock dumping . But when it was first reported on it was only the Republican senators that were attacked for it , but when it was proven that Democrat senators did it too , the media and some people here went silent on it real quickly . And yes i was not happy when I heard about it too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Yes. I hate when Garbage posts like this are made. I agree

    You do know that a bunch of senators and congressmen dumped their stocks just before the market crashed? That’s not conspiracy. It’s fact. They used inside info as to what the president was going to do, to profit
    That’s a fact
    It’s disgusting they did it but I’m guessing you are ok with it

    The idea that a professional “businessman “ might set his family and others up for profit by pushing a drug that has very little empirical data to back it is garbage?
    Why is it garbage as a thought? Because you didn’t think of it?
    Yeah because who could benefit from the peddling of a fake cure? We're never seen that before in human history.

    The fact that people can't connect the dots really frightens me though. Definitely no interests at hand there. Like how the company's net worth would jump exponentially, that stock holders would make a fortune, etc. Pharmaceutical companies never do things for money. Their motives are altruistic and pure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Genius, if the drug was a sure thing, don’t you think they’d be filling the hospitals with it?

    It has had a small amount of success. It has not worked on everyone tested
    It’s that simple
    It helps some it hurts others
    If it was sure fire and ready for wide use, we would be making it by the boatload as would every other country
    Well any Success with these drugs vs the virus should certainly be enough to warrant some usage of it . There is nothing to lose by trying it like trump said . Not trying it at all out of fear that it might not work is downright criminal . I applaud trump for wanting to try that drug on this virus .

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