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  1. #6061
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    That may have been true 20 years ago but now the Democrat party is as liberal as can be
    Thats not true.

    There are moderate Democrats. Plenty of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Thats not true.

    There are moderate Democrats. Plenty of them.
    Moderate and Democrat goes together like oil and water

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    That may have been true 20 years ago but now the Democrat party is as liberal as can be
    Nothing is further from the truth. There are social democrats who are fiscal conservatives. In fact, imo the party has moved closer to the center to form a consensus on certain issues. In the last 20+ years the party has moved more right than left. You still have people on the fringes, just as you do in the republican party ultra right wing and more moderate.

    It only appears more liberal when viewed thru your heavily tainted, Limbaugh inspired, FOX tuned right wing perspective.

    On social issues, as we have become more tolerant as a culture so too have the politics of the democratic party. Democrats have indeed become more liberal over time, particularly on questions related to race and immigration. Democrats also moved to the left on health care, Democrats have long been supportive of the government taking a more active role in health care. It’s not just Democrats moving to the left on these issues. There’s evidence that the general electorate is becoming more liberal, too.
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    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Albert Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin
    “The greatest blessings of mankind are within us and within our reach. A wise man is content with his lot, whatever it may be, without wishing for what he has not.” --- Seneca



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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Moderate and Democrat goes together like oil and water
    Thats not true. Not all Democrats are extreme left wing socialists despite your beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Moderate and Democrat goes together like oil and water
    Only when viewed thru the FOX inspired lens.
    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Albert Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin
    “The greatest blessings of mankind are within us and within our reach. A wise man is content with his lot, whatever it may be, without wishing for what he has not.” --- Seneca



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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Only when viewed thru the FOX inspired lens.
    Pretty much.

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    'Liberals' and even progressives in the US would be considered middle/right center in a majority of other countries, and right wing in some.

    That's how 'unprogressive' the United States is.

    It's okay, guys like bezos needs billions of dollars that he will never spend(yes I'm aware much of it is tied up in stocks). But a fair share of Americans(many in republican states, more so than democratic run states) are struggling to make ends meet.

    I've been a fiscal conservative for 34 years, it's how I was raised. But, seeing how the status quo has not helped, I'm open to change.

    Republicans don't save the country money, they just use the time and time again **failed** trickle economics that never work for more then a few years.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    'Liberals' and even progressives in the US would be considered middle/right center in a majority of other countries, and right wing in some.

    That's how 'unprogressive' the United States is.

    It's okay, guys like bezos needs billions of dollars that he will never spend(yes I'm aware much of it is tied up in stocks). But a fair share of Americans(many in republican states, more so than democratic run states) are struggling to make ends meet.

    I've been a fiscal conservative for 34 years, it's how I was raised. But, seeing how the status quo has not helped, I'm open to change.

    Republicans don't save the country money, they just use the time and time again **failed** trickle economics that never work for more then a few years.

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    If at all. In never seems to trickle down, for some reason it gets stuck in 1) corporate buy backs, 2)bonuses and 3) corporate expansion.
    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Albert Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin
    “The greatest blessings of mankind are within us and within our reach. A wise man is content with his lot, whatever it may be, without wishing for what he has not.” --- Seneca



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    Few years old but still valid.


    https://youtu.be/7im330R4d-Q

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I ask again, do you support trump and his handling of this situation?
    Well it’s the first time u asked but I don’t have a problem with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flimflamman View Post
    One lie off the bat from you, that we think looters and thieves should not be punished. Criminals should be punished. Protesters and looters are not the same thing. Which brings us back to the point of the protesters, that criminal police officers should be prosecuted and not protected. So why do you feel bad police officers shouldn't be prosecuted, why do you feel protesters shouldn't protest. Funny you don't want silent protests during the National Anthem and you don't want them on the streets.
    No one is saying to protect the bad cops and no one is saying not to protest. Protest all u want but don’t kill people, not destroy buildings and private property, and don’t lite stuff on fire.

    What more do u guys want? The cop and his helpers were charged for the death of George Floyd. But they still want to destroy and steal things. They still want to shoot and stab the police. At what point does the chaos stop?


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    Quote Originally Posted by YANKSGUY View Post
    First of all, I'd guess there's very few "protesters" doing the looting. The looters are just a bunch of thugs not the least bit interested in protesting.
    Omg... u said thugs. This guy is a racist! Just like Trump... basically said the N* word!


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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Are you serious? Based on your definition above, what would that make tRump? He is supposed to be a leader. He is supposed to represent all citizens. He is supposed to show love and compassion for all people. He is supposed to express empathy for people suffering in pain.

    He cares about the people?! Yeah it shows. He gases them and sends in the police to clear them out so he can have a photo op. He cares about them by threatening violence. His offer of help is to send in the militia to take "control". Do I have that right Jorge?
    Yes and he is showing love and compassion to the 85% of people that are tired of this pointless rioting. Too many innocent ppl are being impacted... time to get back to normal life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    If you haven't seen this, it's fantastic.
    This is the type of leader I would like to see in our country

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
    Not me. That guy is a spineless piece of human trash.

    https://youtu.be/JLfIPiqbRRs


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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    My point is that you have a president who hates the left looking to label a left wing organization as a domestic terrorist group. If you're going to do that, be consistent. We know domestic terrorist cells exist from extreme right organizations as well. Then again this is the same president that said there were "good people on both sides" in response to the Charlottesville protests in 2017. Meanwhile there were Neo Nazis protesting there.
    Real quick. I have no problem labeling the KkK as a domestic terrorist group based on prior atrocities committed. And I am genuinely curious, when was the last time they committed a hate crime. I understand they attend rallies and such but I see them as a hate group and not so much a group killing people these days. I could be wrong and if u tell me they did XYandZ, and hurt these folks, or abducted and killed these folks, or lit this black guys house on fire... I’m right there with u... I just haven’t seen or heard of that happening in a long time.


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