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  1. #31
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    Donít want to make it political but the way Trump handled it was a complete joke and pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    Donít want to make it political but the way Trump handled it was a complete joke and pathetic
    Yeah was joking about it first and now overreacting about it just because he made a mistake first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLNBA View Post
    This is such a perfect, factual explanation of COVID-19 (coronavirus) the world needs to hear right now. Educate yourselves. Thank you, doctor. [emoji1376][emoji1373][emoji67]*[emoji2021]

    ďMarc Serota, MD immunologist, posted this on facebook. I think it is the clearest statement regarding Coronavirus I have seen.

    From an MD immunologist:
    I don't post a lot on facebook but I would like to give my perspective and context on the coronavirus outbreak. I hope I can be a more reputable source of perspective as a physician who specializes and is board certified in immunology (as well as pediatrics, allergy and dermatology).

    1. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. "coronavirus" is not unique to this particular strain. Everyone reading this has likely had another different coronavirus infection. This particular strain has been named COVID-19.

    2. Every upper respiratory virus has the potential to be lethal. Patients unfortunately die from many upper respiratory viral infections every year - most prominently the influenza virus. 30,000 people died from the influenza virus in 2019. The media didn't report each one. They have reported all 11 coronavirus deaths. Not telling us about the people lost but rather keeping a death "toll".

    Let me repeat that:
    -Coronavirus: 38 deaths (US in 2020), 3300 deaths (China in 2020).
    -Influenza: 30,000 deaths (US in 2019).

    *Influenza pandemic of 1918: 675,000! (US), 20-50 MILLION!! (worldwide) <---These people I think would have been in favor of receiving their annual flu vaccine.

    This is not meant to minimize any of these deaths but rather to give context and put some facts to the hysteria.

    3. If you're healthy, there is no need to walk around wearing a mask. In addition to looking silly and most of the time wearing/taking them off wrong - which would actually make you more prone to acquiring an infection, they don't prevent you from getting sick. If you're actually sick stay away from people and then, sure, wear a mask so you aren't spreading respiratory droplets every time you cough/sneeze. In medicine we don't wear the masks you're buying and we wear other protective equipment - not just a silly looking mask you found on Amazon. When you see doctor's walking around the world wearing a mask then you should too. Until then, stop.

    4. The symptoms are that of the flu. As doctors we don't test or know about most people with mild or moderate flu symptoms. That means most people will probably get it and just think they had the flu. That means you're only going to hear about the cases that get serious - not all the minor ones which will be the vast majority of cases.

    5. When it is said that people who are older or have other medical conditions are most likely to die - that is equally true for EVERY upper respiratory virus. There is nothing unique about that to this particular virus. It does mean that the only cases we tend to know about are the severe ones. Once a case is severe it then makes sense to test the patient to find out what virus in particular they have. That means you can easily overestimate how severe or lethal the virus is because the only cases you end up knowing about are the serious ones.

    In summary 30,000 people died from the flu last year. Another 30,000 died in car accidents.

    I remember: H1N1 (2009), MERS (2012), Ebola (2014), Coronavirus (2020).

    Take it from me: The poor resident who stood at the door of the ER to triage people in 2009's swine flu (H1N1) hysteria. The over reaction is exponentially worse than the actual problem and in 2020 the over reactions I'm seeing are remarkable. In cold and flu season you'll probably get sick once or twice for about a week each. You might even get this particular coronavirus and most of you won't even know it. I've seen people raiding supermarkets, major meetings and sporting events getting cancelled and fear/racism towards Asian people. These reactions are totally unnecessary and panic based. Just do what you've always done during cold/flu season. Stay away from other people when you're sick, wash your hands and keep them away from your face, and only go to the ER if you feel your symptoms are more severe than a bad cold/flu (shortness of breath, high fever, etc.). And also realize you can't live on earth and not get viral illnesses from time to time. It's a part of nature.

    Please don't ask for antibiotics (those treat bacteria - not viruses). Thats like asking for a fire extinguisher when you're drowning. It can be a life saving device - but the wrong one for the problem at hand. Some doctor's don't want to fight about it when patients insist on antibiotics so they just prescribe them - but it doesn't mean its actually helping you and in some cases they can be harmful (resistance, infections, allergic reactions just to name a few). If you're one who asks for antibiotics every time you're sick, again, take it from me: ask for a flu shot each year and a doctor's note to stay home from work when you're sick instead. You will be much better off.

    The government is very proud that testing will be available to every American. Remember, we don't test for any respiratory virus other than the influenza virus routinely. The reason is thats the only virus that has a treatment (pill) you can take to shorten the duration of severity of the illness. I suspect if we start testing everyone with cold symptoms for coronavirus we're going to find lots of it. It's not going to change the recommendations to stay home and rest. And its not going to predict the small percentage of people who may develop more severe symptoms. Essentially whether someone has coronavirus 19 or some other cold/flu virus isn't going to matter to your doctor. What it will do is slam urgent cares, ER's and hospitals with every patient who has a cold so they can be tested. It is much more sensible to reserve testing for patients requiring hospitalization or more advanced treatments. Even that wouldn't change their management but would be more to confirm the diagnosis and to not waste time looking for other causes of the patients symptoms.

    In conclusion, yes there is a novel virus that our immune systems haven't seen yet so to get immune to it you will have to get infected - at least until a vaccine is developed to bypass the getting sick part and just jumping straight to immune. Most people's immune systems will do that effectively and be fine. A small percentage of unfortunate patients (primarily elderly, immune compromised etc.) will not be able to do that effectively and will need more advanced care. This is true of the cold/flu viruses we deal with every year. Follow normal cold/flu precautions and seek medical care if you feel your symptoms are severe. No need to get hysterical.

    These outbreaks can be instructive for overall knowledge of public health. In particular showing your immune system the uniform of a potential invader (virus) so that if it ever sees a soldier wearing that uniform it will immediately attack and neutralize it without you ever getting sick. That is a wonderful thing and probably the single biggest achievement in medicine throughout human history. That is what vaccines are. The benefit to risk ratio of them are off the charts in favor of vaccines. If viruses like coronavirus scare you, then stay up to date on your vaccines and your immune system will be running the latest software.

    If you still think you should be scared consider this: Doctors, nurses and other healthcare staff are going to hospitals every day. Crowded buildings with tons of sick people. They aren't walking around the halls of the hospitals wearing masks and they haven't stopped going to work. And they are all rolling their eyes at everyone else right now.[emoji849]

    Marc Serota, MDĒ
    I donít give a **** about a random doctor. Look at the transmission rate and the mortality rate for people over 80. This disease has a transmission rate of almost 4. The basic flu? Around 1. This **** can explode and explode fast and the fact that people over the age of 80 have almost an 20% mortality rate should be a good enough reason to stop gathering in large numbers and take precautions! You going to a Facebook doctor for your news on this is everything I need to know about your knowledge of this. Iím not a Dr. I donít know but you see the DR in congress yesterday give a dire warning, the WHO gave a dire warning; these people have knowledge of infectious diseases like this. Iíll listen to them.


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    This doctor has basically said what many well known others have also said. There are viral videos of many people who had corona giving all of us the real 411 and they are FINE. Look up Carl Goldman who is in 70s. I live on a military installation and had a sapm mict breifing in length discussing this virus. I can tell you the government is not freaking out at all. Lots of people are bound to get it. Swine Flu was HUGE and i got it at Edwards AFB along with most the base but just like most beat it, bird flu same thing, SARS. Im not saying older people won't die because yes there immune system are compromised. They are at a huge risk for all flu strands. Influenza a and b kill tons more. To panic like this because a NBA player and tom hanks got it is just absurd. They are acting like its a damn zombie apocalypse. Whats next? Are we gonne lock down in our homes then start a purge of riots. I cant wait to see this ridiculous Hollywood movie made after this. *sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLNBA View Post
    This doctor has basically said what many well known others have also said. There are viral videos of many people who had corona giving all of us the real 411 and they are FINE. Look up Carl Goldman who is in 70s. I live on a military installation and had a sapm mict breifing in length discussing this virus. I can tell you the government is not freaking out at all. Lots of people are bound to get it. Swine Flu was HUGE and i got it at Edwards AFB along with most the base but just like most beat it, bird flu same thing, SARS. Im not saying older people won't die because yes there immune system are compromised. They are at a huge risk for all flu strands. Influenza a and b kill tons more. To panic like this because a NBA player and tom hanks got it is just absurd. They are acting like its a damn zombie apocalypse. Whats next? Are we gonne lock down in our homes then start a purge of riots. I cant wait to see this ridiculous Hollywood movie made after this. *sarcasm
    The death rate is speculated to settle at 10 times more lethal than the flu minimum. That's just speculation.

    Right now it sits at 3.6 percent death rate. Seasonal flu typically sits at 0.1.

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    I'm expecting at least a one month suspension of play, possibly even two+ months. Or maybe after a month they will play some games with no fans... this blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    Donít want to make it political but the way Trump handled it was a complete joke and pathetic
    "don't want to make it political but orange man bad"

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    Quote Originally Posted by handle View Post
    "don't want to make it political but orange man bad"
    Yeah he f'ked us and now a lot of people are dying worldwide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman8586 View Post
    I'm serious almost 5,000 people died worldwide it feels like we're in Avengers Infinity War when Thanos snapped his fingers and wiped out half of the universe.
    Do you want me to set you up a thread for yourself so you can quarantine yourself from us? Here is your big chance.

    "I set my DVR for the Biggest Loser, but it keeps recording Clippers games."

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman8586 View Post
    Yeah he f'ked us and now a lot of people are dying worldwide.
    How the hell did Trump f-u!? You act like he created this in china lol dude does follow what a ton of experts tell him to do. People will blame this guy for anytbing while not aknowledging any good. Thats true hate. Imagine how more productive we would be if these other leaders like Pelosi, who only show up to say something bad about trump decided to put pride aside, except him, and HELPED
    the cause. Be productive. Whining about him 24/7 isnt helping anything. Your cities are most digusting and homless ran cities we have in US. Do WORK. We don't pay you to cry and whine about the president every damn day.
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    Donovan Mitchell has tested positive for Coronavirus.


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    Just imagine what the number would be if the average citizen got tested as quickly as these NBA players are.


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    Well if the season finishes like this for the playoffs, I am happy to play Memphis than Portland with Lillard back and Nurkic possibly returning. I really feel sorry for Vince Carter though. Dude deserves a proper goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLNBA View Post
    How the hell did Trump f-u!? You act like he created this in china lol dude does follow what a ton of experts tell him to do. People will blame this guy for anytbing while not aknowledging any good. Thats true hate. Imagine how more productive we would be if these other leaders like Pelosi, who only show up to say something bad about trump decided to put pride aside, except him, and HELPED
    the cause. Be productive. Whining about him 24/7 isnt helping anything. Your cities are most digusting and homless ran cities we have in US. Do WORK. We don't pay you to cry and whine about the president every damn day.
    That's the problem too much ego. Anyways I can't do Uber and Lyft right not so I have to figure out what to do on my spare time on weekends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShadow42 View Post
    Do you want me to set you up a thread for yourself so you can quarantine yourself from us? Here is your big chance.
    Lmfao!!

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