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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    they might be willing to meet in the middle with some sort of plan to try and not destroy either side. Even hardcore liberal Andrew Cuomo said there is a way to do both.

    Do you honestly think its sustainable to keep the entire economy shut for 18 months? your 401k is not the only thing at risk.
    America's been through great depressions before. Maybe we just used to be tougher. We certainly had more integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    America's been through great depressions before. Maybe we just used to be tougher. We certainly had more integrity.
    ummmmm? was that suppose to be a joke? We have been through the spanish flu before too. Doesnt mean id want to repeat either of them if there is any way to avoid it.

    The fact that you think the only downside to this shut down economically is the trend on people's 401k.... shows you dont really understand the problem that this is causing everyone right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    America's been through great depressions before. Maybe we just used to be tougher. We certainly had more integrity.
    also worth noting that over 7 million people starved to death during the great depression. Many infants died early on in life because their family couldnt afford care. There was also a sharp increase in deaths related to theft and other crime....... so yeah a depression has more negatives than just peoples 401k dropping.

    Anyone care to do the calculations of prorating 7 million people in the 30s as a similar percentage of people in todays population? Hopefully that would get Indy's attention.....

    You ought to be ashamed of yourself attacking peoples morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    I would be in favor of closing the borders for 60-90 days.
    If economy is your concern, trust me you don't want this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    also worth noting that over 7 million people starved to death during the great depression. Many infants died early on in life because their family couldnt afford care. There was also a sharp increase in deaths related to theft and other crime....... so yeah a depression has more negatives than just peoples 401k dropping.

    Anyone care to do the calculations of prorating 7 million people in the 30s as a similar percentage of people in todays population? Hopefully that would get Indy's attention.....

    You ought to be ashamed of yourself attacking peoples morals.
    roughly 17.5 million today
    YOU JUST MADE THE LIST!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    Im worried more about the middle class than the billionaires being able to survive a 10-12 yr recession.
    Then you’re against Trump when he said to just get back to work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    also worth noting that over 7 million people starved to death during the great depression. Many infants died early on in life because their family couldnt afford care. There was also a sharp increase in deaths related to theft and other crime....... so yeah a depression has more negatives than just peoples 401k dropping.

    Anyone care to do the calculations of prorating 7 million people in the 30s as a similar percentage of people in todays population? Hopefully that would get Indy's attention.....

    You ought to be ashamed of yourself attacking peoples morals.
    You think sacrificing 3-7 million people is the moral choice? You are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    You think sacrificing 3-7 million people is the moral choice? You are delusional.
    1) nobody said give up on them. (protect the most vulnerable, enforce social distancing as much as possible). Save as many as possible. million is like 160 times the deaths that the entire world has right now!!!

    2) An effort to prevent north of 17.5 million people losing their lives in a depression seems like the correct course of action. And if you think Trump is just looking out for the billionaires- the billionaires likely wouldnt be the ones starving to death if we had a great depression. The billionaires would likely find a way to get even more rich and more powerful. TRUMP IS NOT FOR A DEPRESSION

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    You think sacrificing 3-7 million people is the moral choice? You are delusional.
    He’s all over the place. He’s saying we have to be on lock down one minute, we gotta get back to work the next. When he said “But keep blaming the president for trying to find a solution to help as many people now and in the future as possible” I think he really thinks that but only because he’s gotta back up his boy. Trump said it, even though it contradicts what Stylez has been saying, so Stylez has to twist in into his own narrative now. That’s one of the problems with these Trump supporters, gotta defend Daddy even if it makes no sense, goes against their own interests or is obviously really, really dumb.

    Trump doesn’t care about helping as many people as possible, he cares about making money and having power. When his hotels started closing that’s when “state’s rights” (a republican motto) started to sound beyond the pale.

    I was going to reply to everything this guy said but it won’t do any good. We’ve all seen enough of Stylez’s posts to know what he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    1) nobody said give up on them. (protect the most vulnerable, enforce social distancing as much as possible). Save as many as possible. million is like 160 times the deaths that the entire world has right now!!!

    2) An effort to prevent north of 17.5 million people losing their lives in a depression seems like the correct course of action. And if you think Trump is just looking out for the billionaires- the billionaires likely wouldnt be the ones starving to death if we had a great depression. The billionaires would likely find a way to get even more rich and more powerful. TRUMP IS NOT FOR A DEPRESSION
    But real quick:

    The more people return to normal, the more people will get sick and go to the hospitals where we are understaffed and underbedded. We can’t keep up. Indy has made this argument plenty that even the most hardheaded dumb**** bozos should have understood it by now.

    A depression would hurt Trunp’s re-election chances so of course he doesn’t want one but other than that, if it meant he could make more money he’d be all for a depression. Make no mistake, you’re being played but as long as your 401k is rising, you’re too blinded to see it. Wake up or stop showing us how inept you are at basic concept understanding and proving how easily bought you are.

    You’re part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    But real quick:

    The more people return to normal, the more people will get sick and go to the hospitals where we are understaffed and underbedded. We can’t keep up. Indy has made this argument plenty that even the most hardheaded dumb**** bozos should have understood it by now.

    A depression would hurt Trunp’s re-election chances so of course he doesn’t want one but other than that, if it meant he could make more money he’d be all for a depression. Make no mistake, you’re being played but as long as your 401k is rising, you’re too blinded to see it. Wake up or stop showing us how inept you are at basic concept understanding and proving how easily bought you are.

    You’re part of the problem.
    i would give up every penny in my 401k to avoid a depression for this country


    im not being played.... im in favor of looking for a plan to address both issues.... while indy is ok completely ignoring the issue of another depression.

    I never have once said lets just stop doing anything to help the people infected.... where indy has repeatedly shot down any discussion over atleast acknowledging that a depression is really bad thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    then everyone would need to stop using resources that have value. stop using power, stop using gas, stop using water, stop eating and hydrating ourselves. There are obviously costs to all these things
    Pay for food and power but not rent/mortgage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    Pay for food and power but not rent/mortgage/
    and the landlords who depend on that rent for paying off the loan for the new roof they put on the complex last summer? or routine maintenance for their property?

    A lot of banks are deferring mortgage payments and interest accrual for 60-90 days. My credit Union sent me an email saying I dont owe mortgage until June 1st

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    On Sunday, Pastor Tony Spell said, his Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge drew about 1,000 people to its services, in part by busing people in from across five parishes.
    On Tuesday evening, the pastor plans to hold services again, despite the governor's stay-at-home orders, a petition seeking his arrest and a flood of criticism from fellow Christians.
    "If they close every door in this city, then I will close my doors," Spell told CNN on Tuesday. "But you can't say the retailers are essential but the church is not. That is a persecution of the faith."
    Spell has told CNN he believes the pandemic is "politically motivated."
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/us/lo...rus/index.html

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    would not be in favor of this. Even if businesses were to start up in a couple weeks.... i wouldn't encourage people to gather in huge groups like that.

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