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    Quote Originally Posted by zookman65 View Post
    Ha ha. In all honesty the biggest waste of time in any workout routine. Do bodyweight controlled push ups to failure coupled with kettle bell hip thrusts and other kettle bell work will make you in far better shape than getting fat and benching 500 lbs. Those f'n overly thick chested shoulders rolled in guys look and are so nonathletic. Kind of funny that Strongman contestants and cross fit high level competitors rarely do bench press.
    Iím 180 lbs I bench 245. Iím not huge but enjoy gains. I never would have gotten the power to put up 245 doing push ups. I did get myself up to doing a 100 push-ups in a set about a year ago bc I thought it was a fun challenge. Your work out is your work out why the hate?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Haha Iíll stay out of the lunch thread. most people are annoyed by plant based or vegans sharing food. I know because I remember mocking them myself...so weird to be here now.

    So hereís whatís first. The only truly incomplete protein is gelatin. ďCompleteĒ is just a matter of which amino acids are present. And given the health deficiencies weíre now aware of, keep in mind that eating animals for protein is like drinking vodka to stay hydrated. Itís just not worth the side effects.

    Another note, thereís a study on pubmed.gov that showed vegans tend to have higher blood protein levels than omnivores. Overall, vegans get 2ó3 times the daily required protein. Because itís in everything and unless you starve yourself itís hard to be deficient in it.

    People get way too hung up on macro nutrients like protein and carbs and fat. The sources matter more. And meeting fiber requirements is where everyone falls short and as more is now being researched about the gut microbiome, itís becoming a critical shortfall and attributes to a lot of the health epidemics were seeing.

    Anyhoo, no you donít have to get hung up on mixing sources. Just eat all the things you really need everyday; whole grains, fruits, veggies, nuts/seeds and beans (black, tofu, tempeh, garbanzo whatever). At my last bloodwork my dietician said I had higher protein and amino hits than her omnivore clients and I pay no attention to balancing anything.


    If youíre considering trying it or interested Iíll yap all day about this stuff. Donít want to come off as preachy, again I donít care what others do.

    I had a substantial transition period of eating some vegan junk food just to get my old habits out of the way. Once you end the habitual piece (and the chemical casomorphins piece as far as cheese) itís pretty easy and crazy how expanded my cooking has become. Thought Iíd feel limited but itís actually been more inventive.
    I always enjoy seeing how people that eat different food make it good. I remember discussing Thug kitchen with you years ago [emoji3]


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    Iím 180 lbs I bench 245. Iím not huge but enjoy gains. I never would have gotten the power to put up 245 doing push ups. I did get myself up to doing a 100 push-ups in a set about a year ago bc I thought it was a fun challenge. Your work out is your work out why the hate?


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    Damn, I bet you one sexy *** Irishman

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
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    I try. I was always super thin- 150 or under til mid 30s. Iíve put on a little mass over the past 5 or 6 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    depends on how important your bench is


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    I always enjoy seeing how people that eat different food make it good. I remember discussing Thug kitchen with you years ago [emoji3]


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    Ha yeah. Thug kitchen is entertaining as hell even if you donít make or eat the recipes.


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    It not something that anyone needs but I do think a guy like me needed stuff like creatine and increased protein to gain mass and more explosive power. Im 6 foot and was bt 135-140 til I was in my 30s. I probably could have gotten it from a vegan diet as well but i think it wouldnít have been a normal diet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    It not something that anyone needs but I do think a guy like me needed stuff like creatine and increased protein to gain mass and more explosive power. Im 6 foot and was bt 135-140 til I was in my 30s. I probably could have gotten it from a vegan diet as well but i think it wouldnít have been a normal diet.


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    Well getting past the issue of whether you need mass, this is also about taking care of the inside of your body. Creatine and excessive meat/dairy consumption does some real damage.

    You can avoid that and still bulk up. Weíve got worlds strong men, NFL DEs, etc moving to plant based diets now. Increasing protein levels in food doesnít necessarily directly increase muscle mass. The workout does most of that and as long as you run a calorie surplus (of good quality food), youíll keep it going. Thereís lots of good resources online. Vegains on YouTube or Plant Based Ben on Instagram for inspiration but plenty of other sources.

    And it doesnít have to be 100% plant, but minimizing even a meal or 2 a day to elongate animal product and increase fiber can have a huge impact on health and environment.

    And this is from someone who never had a meal without it up until a couple years ago.

    Not trying to indoctrinate but just sharing because thereís so much I was never aware of that had such a bad impact on my health and itís now obvious why heart disease, diabetes and cancer are leading causes of death.

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