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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    When Trump banned international flights from Europe and China in late January, he was branded a "xenophobic racist". I'm not sure anyone could have done anything better than he did initially. Unfortunately for everyone, the House Intelligence committee was busy with "other" things in November and December when news was coming out of China about a strange new "flu". The WHO did little to provide actual information as late as March. Our CDC did not really get all the info they needed to help fight this pandemic.
    No, this is wrong, China shared their January numbers with the world, they published numbers showing cases starting in november and reaching threshold for exponential growth in january. The data was there for us to combat this thing. Our govt is just incompetent. That's all it comes down to. Our federal govt is missing an entire health sector of officials who should be working in the public's best interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Exactly.
    If you will indulge me again for a minute, I will rant against the Democrats, yet again (by the way, I have not voted for a major party candidate for president since 1980). Pelosi and Schumer are only interested in getting Trump out of office. They do not care about our health, nor do they care about anything else but power. If Trump looks bad, they are very happy. If they look bad, its Trump's fault.
    This is the system. Dems want the country to hurt so they can win elections, trump wants to nortgage away our future to keep numbers high so he can win election.

    This is what the system is. Since coronavirus hit, our govt has been exposed, complete failure.

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    I’m back with one final comment and proof we are living in history’s biggest hoax:

    1. Go to your search engine (Google, etc) and type in any 3 digits then the words “new cases” this shows that the numbers for COVID-19 are rigged.

    2. Read this very true letter that tells EXACTLY what is taking place:


    On May 26, 2020 I visited my old home town of Jasper. Where there should be a bustling activity, I found a ghost town. In front of the town entrances, signs scream go away with the words "CRITICAL SERVICES ONLY!". Upon entering a building, one is commanded to first sanitize the hands before speaking.

    Enough already! This Corona hysteria is based on distortions, lies and misrepresentations. By going along with the "authorities" and their nonsensical "recommendations", you are participating and propelling our lemming walk into total police state / medical martial law. Surely you know that there is much more going on with this response to the hyped-up plandemic (not a typo) than meets the eye on the television.

    Mayor Ireland, what do you mean by telling the public that your "backyard" is not ready yet? What is it that needs to be ready? Why don't you just tell the businesses, the hotels and restaurants to open their doors. Put the Welcome mat out. The rest will take care of itself.

    Here are a few questions to think about.

    How much sense does "social distancing" make, when in fact the isolation will weaken our immune systems?

    Why are the so-called authorities recommending wearing masks, when doing so for any length of time is actually bad for your health? Not enough oxygen, too much carbon dioxide, and breathing in your own air can lead to illness.

    Is it just coincidence that the hardest-hit areas of Covid-19 happen to be the same areas where 5G has been rolled out? (Remember Wuhan?) And is it just coincidence that EMF radiation causes the same symptoms as Covid-19 is said to cause?

    Did you know that the tests for this Corona virus do not actually test specifically for Covid-19? They test for exosomes, which are essentially genetic material. During the course of the test, they double the material and keep on doubling it until they arbitrarily decide they have amplified the material enough. Any one of us could test positive some days, negative other days, quite randomly and depending how many times the testers double our material. This means that there are many false positives. Does this not make the tests meaningless?

    Were you aware that doctors and nurses are pressured to write Covid19 on death certificates, even if the patient died of other causes?

    And did you know that they need only suspect that the patient had Covid19? They do not even have to test for it. It seems that almost everybody who dies these days has Covid19 on their death certificate.

    Why are doctors pressured into making this diagnosis? Might there be an ulterior agenda?

    Even if we assume "social distancing" works, how does it make sense to close outdoor spaces, when in fact it would be easiest to practice "social distancing" outside?

    Do you think it is good for the children's health to traumatize them and terrorize them with this big bad bogeyman of a disease?

    How many children have died of Covid19? Are you aware that the stress of fear, especially constant fear, is bad for our health? Even if you believe the numbers, is this disease really that deadly?

    Why did they not lockdown and shut down the world during flu season every single year? Many people die of the annual flu, especially old people.

    I hear that in Alberta the average age of death with Covid19 is 83. Is this good reason to destroy small businesses, shut down schools, and put everyone in a state of fear?

    They tell us that you can have the disease, then recover, but that you can then get it again. They also tell us that the vaccination will carry the virus and that is supposed to make us immune. How does that make sense?

    Why do small businesses get shut down while large businesses remain open? Are small family-run businesses more prone to spreading disease than the Walmart and Safeway stores?

    Do you think it is good and right that old people in care homes are forbidden from seeing their loved ones, just in their moment of need, sometimes at end of life?

    Why is it that meatpacking plants and other food producers seem to be disproportionately hit with outbreaks (or so they tell us)? Why are they dumping milk and telling farmers in some regions to plow their crops under? It would not be the first deliberately induced famine - just research the Holodomor.

    Have you ever heard of predictive programming? And have you heard of Event 201? That was a planning event for a Coronavirus pandemic, held in October 2019.

    Have you heard of Agenda 21? Do you believe everything they tell us is true? I could go on with more questions about this Coronavirus "pandemic", but those will suffice as "food for thought".

    I have looked into this, and have come to the conclusion that what we are witnessing is nothing less than the implementation of a New World Order, and it is pure communism. If they succeed, it will be a tyrannical one-world-government police state in which our every move will be monitored, controlled and dictated. We will be slaves in a dystopia. We will be force vaccinated, and the vaccine will not be good for us.

    Let us look at the local health scene in Jasper as it relates to this so-called virus. It will provide us with an excellent example of how reality is distorted.

    In Jasper there were 9 cases of Covid19. Eight recovered and one died so far. The man who died had a tube up his nose and schlepped his oxygen tank around with him long before this so-called pandemic began. He was 86 years old when he died. His health was extremely compromised already. Yet he makes up the statistic of Covid19 death in Jasper. Repeat that scenario everywhere. That is a typical story, not the exception.

    On May 26, the day I was in Jasper, there was one patient in the hospital. And yet we are left with the impression from the mass media that health care workers are over-worked. Again, repeat that scenario everywhere. Hospitals are largely empty.

    Who are these authorities who are giving out the orders? They have no authority over us! They have acquired their so-called authority through deception and crime. When we obey that ill-begotten authority, we give them legitimacy. They do NOT have our best interests at heart. They are destroying us.

    Fear is a powerful control tool. So is the money they are handing out, to keep everyone calm, docile, and quiet. For now.

    Already they speak of the second wave (and third... and fourth...). It is all planned. Like a Boa Constrictor tightens its grip just when the intended prey exhales in order to take a new breath, this is how the New World Order is being implemented. Relax a little, then lock down harder, and harder, squeezing the last breath of life / freedom out.

    By "obeying" the insane lockdown and social distancing measures, we are willingly walking into this dystopian nightmare. If we are too stupid to recognize it, maybe we deserve it? No! Millions are awake to the agenda, but the quislings still go along with their puppet-masters.

    You are in a position to say NO to the "orders". Those orders are not laws. They are recommendations, and even if they were laws, they would not be legitimate. We can ALL just say no, in fact we MUST say no to this, in order to survive as a people. We owe this to our children and grandchildren.

    Your children and grandchildren will talk to you from the future, a future where every move and every breath and every conversation is controlled and monitored, and a future in which they quite possibly are hungry, they will ask you: "Ma, Pa, Grandma, Grandpa, what did you do in 2020?"

    And you will say: "I obeyed the health authorities, and I obeyed the government. I trusted them."

    Wake up! Resist this tyranny! We will take back our world! Work, play, and gather again. Shed our fear. That's enough idiocy. Let's get back to living again.

    If we stop consenting to our enslavement, then it will not happen. We are many. They are few.

    If you still believe what the mainstream media is telling you and that there really is a pandemic then you truly are in the family of “sheeple”

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    “You can’t convince a closed minded person of anything. If you can’t open your mind to other possibilities you will only believe what your eyes and ears want you to believe.”

    “The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.”

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    Last edited by Harv; 06-22-2020 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Exactly.
    If you will indulge me again for a minute, I will rant against the Democrats, yet again (by the way, I have not voted for a major party candidate for president since 1980). Pelosi and Schumer are only interested in getting Trump out of office. They do not care about our health, nor do they care about anything else but power. If Trump looks bad, they are very happy. If they look bad, its Trump's fault.
    This is a major problem on many levels. They don't want to do what's best for "us" (I'm not American, but the same thing applies here in Canada). They want to do what it takes to win the election and stay in power, or get into power. It's not just dems or reps that do it. We have more parties here, and they all do the same thing. Just about every politician is guilty of campaign lies, telling us what we want to here, but then not following through once in power.

    But I will say, that getting Trump out is good for the entire globe's health and safety. Take this from an outsider looking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harv View Post
    “You can’t convince a closed minded person of anything. If you can’t open your mind to other possibilities you will only believe what your eyes and ears want you to believe.”

    “The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.”

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    <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/afagen/2571386115/" title=""The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.""><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/3048/2571386115_3440d3a767_3k.jpg" width="2593" height="1703" alt=""The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television.""></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Seems like a very hypocritical post. You don't seem to be open to any science based facts.

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    Anyone in government including scientists can convince egos with anything and just because they give you numbers and so-called facts does not necessarily make it true. How are you convincing yourself that what you are reading or hearing is actually true? There is always the chance of another side to everything we hear. You just have to have an open mind to consider it. Obviously you didn’t read the entire story above. If you wish to live a life of being told where you can go, what you can do, when and where to wear a mask, having a vaccine that includes poisons and the corona virus inside of it forced into your arm (and the government and its scientists have admitted the virus is in the vaccine) that’s your choice but won’t be mine. I want the freedom to live how I see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    No, this is wrong, China shared their January numbers with the world, they published numbers showing cases starting in november and reaching threshold for exponential growth in january. The data was there for us to combat this thing. Our govt is just incompetent. That's all it comes down to. Our federal govt is missing an entire health sector of officials who should be working in the public's best interest.

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    This is what I mean by saying that the House Intelligence Committee blew the situation by focusing on domestic things. The more ears and eyes we have on information from foreign sources, the better we are. Adam Schiff concentrated on other things, as opposed to doing his job in November and December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Here is some mixed news on Covid:
    https://news.yahoo.com/the-emerging-...cation-brknews
    More young people are testing positive, yet the death rate is either steady or declining in the "outbreak" states.
    I'd expect the death rate to decline throughout the summer, but the fall into the winter could be scary as ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    I'd expect the death rate to decline throughout the summer, but the fall into the winter could be scary as ****.

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    From the news I have read out of Italy and Germany, it appears the virus is mutating and becoming less infective. That is how SARS and MERS went away. They both mutated into forms that did not affect humans. Those are both Coronaviruses and are still around, and might make comebacks as well. Epidemiologists are very busy trying to stay ahead of these viruses as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    I'd expect the death rate to decline throughout the summer, but the fall into the winter could be scary as ****.

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    Well all the young and healthy getting infected will also help build herd immunity. Hospitalizations aren't up yet and deaths aren't up yet.
    My county has 25,544 tested, 1,714 tested positive and 38 deaths, so 2.25% of those tested positive die, but .0015 of those tested die (15 in 10000). 25544 is about 10% of the county.
    There are 119 ventilators available, 72 ICU beds available and 561 hospital beds available.
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    The hoax is sure filling up hospitals fast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harv View Post
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone is entitled to believe what they want. The brain will only accept what the eyes are led to believe.
    Explain smart blind people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harv View Post
    I’m back with one final comment and proof we are living in history’s biggest hoax:

    1. Go to your search engine (Google, etc) and type in any 3 digits then the words “new cases” this shows that the numbers for COVID-19 are rigged.

    2. Read this very true letter that tells EXACTLY what is taking place:


    On May 26, 2020 I visited my old home town of Jasper. Where there should be a bustling activity, I found a ghost town. In front of the town entrances, signs scream go away with the words "CRITICAL SERVICES ONLY!". Upon entering a building, one is commanded to first sanitize the hands before speaking.

    Enough already! This Corona hysteria is based on distortions, lies and misrepresentations. By going along with the "authorities" and their nonsensical "recommendations", you are participating and propelling our lemming walk into total police state / medical martial law. Surely you know that there is much more going on with this response to the hyped-up plandemic (not a typo) than meets the eye on the television.

    Mayor Ireland, what do you mean by telling the public that your "backyard" is not ready yet? What is it that needs to be ready? Why don't you just tell the businesses, the hotels and restaurants to open their doors. Put the Welcome mat out. The rest will take care of itself.

    Here are a few questions to think about.

    How much sense does "social distancing" make, when in fact the isolation will weaken our immune systems?

    Why are the so-called authorities recommending wearing masks, when doing so for any length of time is actually bad for your health? Not enough oxygen, too much carbon dioxide, and breathing in your own air can lead to illness.

    Is it just coincidence that the hardest-hit areas of Covid-19 happen to be the same areas where 5G has been rolled out? (Remember Wuhan?) And is it just coincidence that EMF radiation causes the same symptoms as Covid-19 is said to cause?

    Did you know that the tests for this Corona virus do not actually test specifically for Covid-19? They test for exosomes, which are essentially genetic material. During the course of the test, they double the material and keep on doubling it until they arbitrarily decide they have amplified the material enough. Any one of us could test positive some days, negative other days, quite randomly and depending how many times the testers double our material. This means that there are many false positives. Does this not make the tests meaningless?

    Were you aware that doctors and nurses are pressured to write Covid19 on death certificates, even if the patient died of other causes?

    And did you know that they need only suspect that the patient had Covid19? They do not even have to test for it. It seems that almost everybody who dies these days has Covid19 on their death certificate.

    Why are doctors pressured into making this diagnosis? Might there be an ulterior agenda?

    Even if we assume "social distancing" works, how does it make sense to close outdoor spaces, when in fact it would be easiest to practice "social distancing" outside?

    Do you think it is good for the children's health to traumatize them and terrorize them with this big bad bogeyman of a disease?

    How many children have died of Covid19? Are you aware that the stress of fear, especially constant fear, is bad for our health? Even if you believe the numbers, is this disease really that deadly?

    Why did they not lockdown and shut down the world during flu season every single year? Many people die of the annual flu, especially old people.

    I hear that in Alberta the average age of death with Covid19 is 83. Is this good reason to destroy small businesses, shut down schools, and put everyone in a state of fear?

    They tell us that you can have the disease, then recover, but that you can then get it again. They also tell us that the vaccination will carry the virus and that is supposed to make us immune. How does that make sense?

    Why do small businesses get shut down while large businesses remain open? Are small family-run businesses more prone to spreading disease than the Walmart and Safeway stores?

    Do you think it is good and right that old people in care homes are forbidden from seeing their loved ones, just in their moment of need, sometimes at end of life?

    Why is it that meatpacking plants and other food producers seem to be disproportionately hit with outbreaks (or so they tell us)? Why are they dumping milk and telling farmers in some regions to plow their crops under? It would not be the first deliberately induced famine - just research the Holodomor.

    Have you ever heard of predictive programming? And have you heard of Event 201? That was a planning event for a Coronavirus pandemic, held in October 2019.

    Have you heard of Agenda 21? Do you believe everything they tell us is true? I could go on with more questions about this Coronavirus "pandemic", but those will suffice as "food for thought".

    I have looked into this, and have come to the conclusion that what we are witnessing is nothing less than the implementation of a New World Order, and it is pure communism. If they succeed, it will be a tyrannical one-world-government police state in which our every move will be monitored, controlled and dictated. We will be slaves in a dystopia. We will be force vaccinated, and the vaccine will not be good for us.

    Let us look at the local health scene in Jasper as it relates to this so-called virus. It will provide us with an excellent example of how reality is distorted.

    In Jasper there were 9 cases of Covid19. Eight recovered and one died so far. The man who died had a tube up his nose and schlepped his oxygen tank around with him long before this so-called pandemic began. He was 86 years old when he died. His health was extremely compromised already. Yet he makes up the statistic of Covid19 death in Jasper. Repeat that scenario everywhere. That is a typical story, not the exception.

    On May 26, the day I was in Jasper, there was one patient in the hospital. And yet we are left with the impression from the mass media that health care workers are over-worked. Again, repeat that scenario everywhere. Hospitals are largely empty.

    Who are these authorities who are giving out the orders? They have no authority over us! They have acquired their so-called authority through deception and crime. When we obey that ill-begotten authority, we give them legitimacy. They do NOT have our best interests at heart. They are destroying us.

    Fear is a powerful control tool. So is the money they are handing out, to keep everyone calm, docile, and quiet. For now.

    Already they speak of the second wave (and third... and fourth...). It is all planned. Like a Boa Constrictor tightens its grip just when the intended prey exhales in order to take a new breath, this is how the New World Order is being implemented. Relax a little, then lock down harder, and harder, squeezing the last breath of life / freedom out.

    By "obeying" the insane lockdown and social distancing measures, we are willingly walking into this dystopian nightmare. If we are too stupid to recognize it, maybe we deserve it? No! Millions are awake to the agenda, but the quislings still go along with their puppet-masters.

    You are in a position to say NO to the "orders". Those orders are not laws. They are recommendations, and even if they were laws, they would not be legitimate. We can ALL just say no, in fact we MUST say no to this, in order to survive as a people. We owe this to our children and grandchildren.

    Your children and grandchildren will talk to you from the future, a future where every move and every breath and every conversation is controlled and monitored, and a future in which they quite possibly are hungry, they will ask you: "Ma, Pa, Grandma, Grandpa, what did you do in 2020?"

    And you will say: "I obeyed the health authorities, and I obeyed the government. I trusted them."

    Wake up! Resist this tyranny! We will take back our world! Work, play, and gather again. Shed our fear. That's enough idiocy. Let's get back to living again.

    If we stop consenting to our enslavement, then it will not happen. We are many. They are few.

    If you still believe what the mainstream media is telling you and that there really is a pandemic then you truly are in the family of “sheeple”
    ******** fictitious anecdote. People like you are resulting in unnecessary deaths you moron. You are a science-****.

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