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  1. #1
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    Mahomes, Josh Allen, Favre, Vick and Baker on 3rd and 15+



    Dishonorable mention for Brock Lobster.
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
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    Cynical take: Shows what OL's get away with holding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Cynical take: Shows what OL's get away with holding.
    Shows what teams have really fast receiver that can cover distance on obvious defensive pressure down/distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Shows what teams have really fast receiver that can cover distance on obvious defensive pressure down/distance.
    That too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Cynical take: Shows what OL's get away with holding.
    Which is why there are large gaps between players on the same team, like Foles/Wentz.
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I'll leave PSD if Foles isn't the starter in Jax (or elsewhere) next year.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
    -Scott van Pelt

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    Newton and Stafford sure have a lot of 3rd and a mile plays.


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    Couple things though too. The threshold is super low. 15 attempts and using averages is dangerous. Not sure what the scale is or where the high end (looks like Stafford) actually landed it, but judging either of those can be tough on 20 attempts. A few massive gainers can skew those numbers, especially epa.

    And it doesn't fully factor which plays are successful, which can be skewed in small samples too. Josh Allen could throw it downfield 75% of the time but his epa may be derived from a few screens busting out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZNC View Post
    Newton and Stafford sure have a lot of 3rd and a mile plays.
    Lots of sacks, holding, and false starts caused by OL who have no business being in the league, much less starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbearchef View Post
    Lots of sacks, holding, and false starts caused by OL who have no business being in the league, much less starting.
    and zero run support.

    further shows that he's consistently had the least help of any QB in the nfl throughout his career
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    Which is why there are large gaps between players on the same team, like Foles/Wentz.
    Since 2009?


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