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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    Reminds me of Wilson in the Lynch/LOB days.
    I was just coming in here to say this lol

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    Differ didnít have to do anything


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    Uh, can't penalize a guy for not needing to pass lmao.

    He was a top 15 qb in his first full year as a starter. Not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    In the playoffs, yes, his output has been Dilfer like in it's volume. But keep in mind:

    Dilfer SB Regular season:

    1,500 yds, 12 TDs, 11 INTs, 76.6 QB Rating

    Jimmy G SB Regular season:

    3,900 yds, 27 TDs, 13 INTs, 102 QB Rating


    Dilfer was legitimately carried all season. Jimmy was not.
    Can't compare the numbers like that though, have to look at the nfl rankings per stat during the season it occurred

    Your point is valid nonetheless, Jimmy G is slightly above average right now while Dilfer was bad.

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    Yes he is, he is a fraud.

  6. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    Can't compare the numbers like that though, have to look at the nfl rankings per stat during the season it occurred

    Your point is valid nonetheless, Jimmy G is slightly above average right now while Dilfer was bad.
    Beat me to it but yes, look at the NFL rankings per stat during the season in which it occurred. Dilfer was still bad amongst his peers whereas Jimmy is good amongst his.

  7. #22
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    If Jimmy is bad, would that make Kittle the TE GOAT for putting up the numbers he has with a "bad" QB?
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I'll leave PSD if Foles isn't the starter in Jax (or elsewhere) next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    If Jimmy is bad, would that make Kittle the TE GOAT for putting up the numbers he has with a "bad" QB?
    Jimmy's not bad, he's a game manager. I personally don't think it impacts Kittle, if anything it helps him to a degree because he's the #1 option in that offense and they use the run to set up play action to the TE. They also have an impressive TE screen game with him.

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    Jimmy G isn't great, he is basically a freshened up Alex Smith. However, Alex Smith wins you games, just as Jimmy G does. No shame in that. And if they pull it off on the night will he care? Not one bit


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    Quote Originally Posted by stejay View Post
    Jimmy G isn't great, he is basically a freshened up Alex Smith. However, Alex Smith wins you games, just as Jimmy G does. No shame in that. And if they pull it off on the night will he care? Not one bit
    I can see how someone would compare the two but playing style wise Jimmy G is not like Alex Smith at all. Alex Smith was absolutely afraid to throw the ball downfield. Jimmy is not. In fact he was among (if not) the best deep thrower in the league this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    I can see how someone would compare the two but playing style wise Jimmy G is not like Alex Smith at all. Alex Smith was absolutely afraid to throw the ball downfield. Jimmy is not. In fact he was among (if not) the best deep thrower in the league this season.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...throwers-of-17

    Alex Smith, Matthew Stafford head top deep-ball throwers of '17

    On deep passes:
    1. Alex Smith

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    Passer rating: 134.7 (first).
    Completion rate: 54.2 percent (first).
    Percentage of yards: 30 percent (first).
    Touchdown rate: 18.6 percent (second).

    2. Stafford
    3. McCown
    4. Watson
    5. Wilson
    6. Wentz
    7. Brees
    8. Rodgers
    9. Cousins
    10. Brady



    Alex Smith was great with the deep ball, the 49ers just had bad coaches.
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I'll leave PSD if Foles isn't the starter in Jax (or elsewhere) next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...throwers-of-17

    Alex Smith, Matthew Stafford head top deep-ball throwers of '17

    On deep passes:
    1. Alex Smith

    QB
    Chiefs

    Passer rating: 134.7 (first).
    Completion rate: 54.2 percent (first).
    Percentage of yards: 30 percent (first).
    Touchdown rate: 18.6 percent (second).

    2. Stafford
    3. McCown
    4. Watson
    5. Wilson
    6. Wentz
    7. Brees
    8. Rodgers
    9. Cousins
    10. Brady

    Alex Smith was great with the deep ball, the 49ers just had bad coaches.
    Yeah he was great at deep throwing in KC because he actually threw the ball deep. He never did that with SF. He was a turtle in SF, he never took chances. He opened up more in KC. But my point stands: SF Alex Smith is really nothing like SF Jimmy playing style wise. Jimmy's problem is he takes too many chances. Smith's problem was he took too few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...throwers-of-17

    Alex Smith, Matthew Stafford head top deep-ball throwers of '17

    On deep passes:
    1. Alex Smith

    QB
    Chiefs

    Passer rating: 134.7 (first).
    Completion rate: 54.2 percent (first).
    Percentage of yards: 30 percent (first).
    Touchdown rate: 18.6 percent (second).

    2. Stafford
    3. McCown
    4. Watson
    5. Wilson
    6. Wentz
    7. Brees
    8. Rodgers
    9. Cousins
    10. Brady



    Alex Smith was great with the deep ball, the 49ers just had bad coaches.
    It was only that single season. He was great for that one season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Yeah he was great at deep throwing in KC because he actually threw the ball deep. He never did that with SF. He was a turtle in SF, he never took chances. He opened up more in KC. But my point stands: SF Alex Smith is really nothing like SF Jimmy playing style wise. Jimmy's problem is he takes too many chances. Smith's problem was he took too few.
    Which means really bad coaching, not that he couldn't throw deep.
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I'll leave PSD if Foles isn't the starter in Jax (or elsewhere) next year.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
    -Scott van Pelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    It was only that single season. He was great for that one season.
    Can update your information by reviewing https://brickwallblitz.com/category/deep-ball-project/

    But they've only been running 2014 to present, so not much on the 49ers days.
    Dak: 15,778 @ 65.8%, 7.6 per att, 97+21 TD, 36 INT+31 FMB, 97.0 Rate
    Wentz: 14,191 @ 63.8%, 6.9 per att, 97+3 TD, 35 INT+48 FMB, 92.7 Rate



    Quote Originally Posted by BDawk4Prez View Post
    I'll leave PSD if Foles isn't the starter in Jax (or elsewhere) next year.
    "Hater" is a term used by weak minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
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