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    Top 25 NBA players of the Decade by Wins Added

    I don't specifically know how Wins Added is calculated but I thought it was an interesting graphic. Sounds like it should reflect somewhat similarly to VORP but maybe someone can provide more info.


    aww **** it how do you post a stupid image


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    Last edited by Jamiecballer; 12-28-2019 at 06:37 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    1 Lebron James 195.3
    2 Kevin Durant 148.3
    3 Steph Curry 139.1
    4 Chris Paul 132.6
    5 James Harden 120.6
    6 Russell Westbrook 117.0
    7 Kyle Lowry 94.9
    8 Dwight Howard 93.9
    9 Draymond Green 90.4
    10 Paul George 89.8
    11 LaMarcus Aldridge 84.4
    12 Dirk Nowitzki 82.3
    13 Marc Gasol 82.2
    14 DeAndre Jordan 81.9
    15 Mike Conley 80.5
    16 Kawhi Leonard 79.1
    17 Kevin Love 76.4
    18 Al Horford 75.7
    19 Blake Griffin 75.5
    20 Paul Millsap 74.7
    21 Damian Lillard 71.9
    22 Tim Duncan 70.9
    23 Anthony Davis 68.0
    24 Dwyane Wade 66.3
    25 Klay Thompson 66.0
    Last edited by Jamiecballer; 12-28-2019 at 07:27 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    but when i laugh at the notion of kobe or wade being in the top 10 i get **** for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    but when i laugh at the notion of kobe or wade being in the top 10 i get **** for it.
    for the decade that just ended? that doesn't make any sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    for the decade that just ended? that doesn't make any sense.
    go see the other thread.... they were actually trying to argue kobe/wade as top 10 from 2010-2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    but when i laugh at the notion of kobe or wade being in the top 10 i get **** for it.
    Donít switch it up, you said Melo should be too 25 over both of them. Clearly not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggie View Post
    Donít switch it up, you said Melo should be too 25 over both of them. Clearly not.
    100 percent melo would be above both of them for me... i am not going by just the stat in this thread... melo in the 2010s was the better player

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    So what is wins-added and how is it justified?

    Seems like a a measurement that lacks basic context. Milsap added more wins to his teams than Anthony Davis because this stat says so? Mmmkay.

    A team based measurement (games won) can never be accurately divided. That article and this thread is click-bait for trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beasted86 View Post
    So what is wins-added and how is it justified?

    Seems like a a measurement that lacks basic context. Milsap added more wins to his teams than Anthony Davis because this stat says so? Mmmkay.

    A team based measurement (games won) can never be accurately divided. That article and this thread is click-bait for trolls.
    Anthony Davis entered the league in 2012-13. Hate to be short but there it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    6&7 stand out to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    Anthony Davis entered the league in 2012-13. Hate to be short but there it is.

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    But the stat...however calculated... is wins-added. Not "player's teams number of wins a season over 10 years". Has Milsap added these wins to his teams because of his impact? I feel it's a much easier argument to say even in the short decade with his injuries Davis has added more wins. I don't get it.

    Maybe it's useful to post the stat formula for a thread like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    100 percent melo would be above both of them for me... i am not going by just the stat in this thread... melo in the 2010s was the better player
    Iím not arguing for Kobe but for Wade no he wasnít and you canít provide anything that says otherwise. You can argue Melo being better for maybe 2 or 3 years at the most.

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    Looking at this list, I suspected Wins Added is some points + rebounds + assists type metric. The players who are on the list are either 20+ppg scorers or 20/20 type rebounders, or triple double type players. It was going to be something really basic.

    Googling, the only thing that comes close to using that verbage is Estimated Wins Added, which is:

    EWA=(MINS*(PER - replacement level)/67)/30

    It's essentially cumulative PER for a season. (PER - replacement level) is the value above a bench level player, 11.5 for PF, 11 for PG, 10.6 for center, 10.5 for SF/SG. 67 is probably the average number of games played by starters. 30 I'm guessing is the estimated amount of PER*MINS points needed to get a "win".

    http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics scroll to the glossary
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    My problem with lots of these "of the decade" lists is guys who were in their prime at the start of the decade and fell off as it went on are getting huge bumps over guys that started and at hitting their primes at the end of the decade.

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