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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Should be noted trump is president when this happened.

    I'm just surprised that you sided with non white people. For you to go out of your way and make a post against ice, it's just so unexpected.

    Anyway, it was a good post
    it's not news who is President while this is happening now, but it is news when this started because not surprisingly people are looking at this story and only assuming it's done with Trump as President. that is factually not true. it's the same thing as people attacking Trump for cages as if it's all his fault, despite them being the same cages that Obama used.

    I often support ICE (remember, capital letters) because they are more against illegal immigrants. that is an important difference.
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    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

    a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...tm_name=iossmf

    Here is another article. Based on what they are saying these kids wouldn’t even of been in the country if it wasn’t for the fake school or maybe they would have gotten a student visa to go to a legit school. Something is wrong here


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...tm_name=iossmf

    Here is another article. Based on what they are saying these kids wouldn’t even of been in the country if it wasn’t for the fake school or maybe they would have gotten a student visa to go to a legit school. Something is wrong here
    It's still not clear that it was entrapment or if it was a sting. Either way, what other purpose did the fake school have? Because if it was this then my god do we need to take more money away from our government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    That's messed up behavior by our government.

    People saying "abolish ICE" do realize if it's abolished it will just be replaced by a different set of initials right? It was INS, now it's ICE, if ICE is gone it will be BSD or something like it.
    No, it'll be
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    HAHHAHAHA

    Like All Trump related immigration scandals....this started under Obama...and No One Cared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    BSD was Border Security Department

    BTS would be ... Border Transfer Stoppers?

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    Students who went to this fake university paid $12,000 to go there. Now that they've been deported, guess who gets to keep the money. Great way for the US government to earn a bit of cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    Students who went to this fake university paid $12,000 to go there. Now that they've been deported, guess who gets to keep the money. Great way for the US government to earn a bit of cash.
    Government seizure is a big money maker for government all over the place. Apparently when you break the law property law doesn't apply to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    To maintain the broken record, the name doesn't matter. ICE may go away, but the job they are doing will not be.
    We'll always be enforcing immigration to some extent, for sure. But we haven't always been policing immigration to this extent and we certainly haven't always had ICE. Get rid of them, get rid of the cruelest policies and get back to something much more sensible. ICE is not integral and putting so many resources into something that's not integral just leads to all the unnecessary cruelty and evil we see. They have nothing better to do than to round up parents waiting for their kids, staking out hospitals, **** like this. Slim it down and focus on the important stuff.

    I don't know if this is an argument to not abolish ICE, but if it is, it's as lazy of an argument as it gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    We'll always be enforcing immigration to some extent, for sure. But we haven't always been policing immigration to this extent and we certainly haven't always had ICE. Get rid of them, get rid of the cruelest policies and get back to something much more sensible. ICE is not integral and putting so many resources into something that's not integral just leads to all the unnecessary cruelty and evil we see. They have nothing better to do than to round up parents waiting for their kids, staking out hospitals, **** like this. Slim it down and focus on the important stuff.

    I don't know if this is an argument to not abolish ICE, but if it is, it's as lazy of an argument as it gets.
    Yeah, the INS did the enforcement before, if ICE goes away INS takes it up again, or another department is created to do it.

    I think we should abolish 80% of the federal government enforcement departments. The Patriot act/Homeland security act are nightmares. The worst act by a president in the last century.

    When we have multiple departments they all feel the need to justify themselves so they try to push the boundaries of their initial purpose. I can't remember the term but the British have a name for it.

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