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  1. #1
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    Bellinger and Trout win MVP's

    Not surprised by either. Both had a close race with Yelich/Bregman.

    Happy for Trout, feels like he's been robbed enough, for him to win one that was close is cool.

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    Both extremely deserving

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    I'm just happy that most awards are pretty much right now. Voters have really caught up in this area from a few years ago.

    I mean, you can argue for Yelich or Bregman here. You can argue for Cole at Cy Young. But this is so close, that it's fine.

    I don't see one egregious recipient this year in any award.

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    I am glad we dont have the stupid arguments of how valuable can he be if his team sucked. Trout is the most valuable to his league. The semantics are clear! League Most Valuable Player. Nowhere in there do I see team MVP or best player on a real good team. Trout more valuable to the league than any other player and its not close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zookman65 View Post
    I am glad we dont have the stupid arguments of how valuable can he be if his team sucked. Trout is the most valuable to his league. The semantics are clear! League Most Valuable Player. Nowhere in there do I see team MVP or best player on a real good team. Trout more valuable to the league than any other player and its not close.
    With the missed games for Trout it actually was super close.

    "there's no scraps in my scrapbook"

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    Players with 70.0 rWAR or better through their age 27 season in baseball history

    1. Mike Trout - 72.5








    that's it. That's the entire list

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    Necessary rWAR seasons for Trout to have to always finish the season as the best rWAR player of all time

    2020 - age 28 - 6.0 (Cobb)
    2021 - age 29 - 7.9 (Cobb)
    2022 - age 30 - 11.4 (Cobb)
    2023 - age 31 - 6.5 (Cobb)
    2024 - age 32 - 5.5 (Cobb)
    2025 - age 33 - 9.8 (Hornsby)
    2026 - age 34 - 1.9 (Ruth)
    2027 - age 35 - 10.2 (Ruth)
    2028 - age 36 - 10.3 (Ruth)
    2029 - age 37 - 8.4 (Ruth)
    2030 - age 38 - 6.3 (Ruth)
    2031 - age 39 - 5.1 (Ruth)
    2032 - age 40 - 0.2 (Ruth)
    2033 - age 41 - 0.0 (Ruth)
    2034 - age 42 - 0.7 (Bonds)

    Total - 162.8 rWAR - he needs 90.3 rWAR to go to tie, and 15 years to do it.

    Basically, he needs to add Wade Boggs career on top of his current career to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zookman65 View Post
    I am glad we dont have the stupid arguments of how valuable can he be if his team sucked. Trout is the most valuable to his league. The semantics are clear! League Most Valuable Player. Nowhere in there do I see team MVP or best player on a real good team. Trout more valuable to the league than any other player and its not close.
    Here we go....why do they have the Hank Aaron award?

  9. #9
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    To reward the best hitter, not the best overall player.

    "there's no scraps in my scrapbook"

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