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  1. #436
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Its not about fair. Its a dumb concept altogether. You don't retroactively make someone else the champion.
    wait, so Vince Young did NOT win the 2005 Heisman?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    wait, so Vince Young did NOT win the 2005 Heisman?
    Heisman is a vote is it not. Quite different IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    Heisman is a vote is it not. Quite different IMO.

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    Fine, so who was the NCAA Mens Basketball champion for 2012-13?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

  4. #439
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    Fine, so who was the NCAA Mens Basketball champion for 2012-13?
    Beats the **** out of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

  5. #440
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    Scott Boras believes the players don't need to apologize.

    I am not surprised.

  6. #441
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    I donít either.

  7. #442
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    Yeah, I don't care a bit about some half-assed, forced public apology.

    "there's no scraps in my scrapbook"

  8. #443
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    when things like this are stripped, they're left vacant, not given to someone who didn't win it
    I always thought that was silly of the NCAA to do that. I donít mind the use of an asterisk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefeckcampaign View Post
    I always thought that was silly of the NCAA to do that. I donít mind the use of an asterisk.
    Also a bit silly to give titles to teams that didn't earn them


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    How do you suppose other players will treat guys like Altuve this year? How many times will they get plunked?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

  11. #446
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    I hope the Astros film the apology and play it on the video board. It would be very fitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    How do you suppose other players will treat guys like Altuve this year? How many times will they get plunked?
    Probably 0. Mike Fiers on the other hand will more than likely be wearing a few when he plays in NL parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    Probably 0. Mike Fiers on the other hand will more than likely be wearing a few when he plays in NL parks.
    I'd bet against that. He didn't do anything to warrant giving away free bases to an AL pitcher.

    "there's no scraps in my scrapbook"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    How do you suppose other players will treat guys like Altuve this year? How many times will they get plunked?
    I doubt anyone gets plunked over any of this.

    I think the Astros and their players will have lost respect around other clubhouses, but it won't go much further beyond that.

    I'd be surprised if there was any action taken on the ball field over any of this.

    I do think players should have been penalized though, it's stupid that they haven't been.

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    Ya, these are ****ing grown *** men being treated like a LLWS team. This isn't like the Jackie Robinson team who the kids did not deserve the backlash caused by their own parents they trust. I am sorry they knew what was going on, knew it was cheating, participated in it, and the only regret is getting caught.

    They weren't manipulated by their own management they should be just as accountable as this is not just a game it's their job. If I am a player this did nothing to stop me to do it again as I know the scapegoat is my manager. Literally grown *** men that face nothing, but scrutiny.

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