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    MLB hands down punishment in Astros sign stealing case

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/a...n-report-says/

    You can jump to 2:55 to see Farquar pitching. The Astros banged a trash can whenever a breaking ball would be called for. You can see Farquar call his catcher out at 2:58 when it happened again to change the signs.

    The issue here isn't the players stealing signs by a catcher not showing them. It's that they are using a centerfield camera to do it.

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    They should receive a huge punishment, but I expect just about nothing to happen as baseball wont spend much time on it hoping for it to fall out of the public spotlight.

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    Okay was this a rare thing or did this happen like every game?


    Fire Luke Walton


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    Quote Originally Posted by sacgiants1213 View Post
    Okay was this a rare thing or did this happen like every game?
    I think it would take some MLB investigators looking into a lot of video, doing interviews, etc, to find out, before something can come of it.

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    Force them to give back their WS trophy and release all of their elite talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Force them to give back their WS trophy and release all of their elite talent.
    That's absurd. If baseball does that, then I expect extremely thorough investigations into all 30 teams and similar punishment for every other player or team breaking MLB rules. I don't think there's a team in the league that would be comfortable with that happening, your Yankees included.

    The Astros absolutely deserve a thorough investigation into the organization and some harsh penalties. Fines. Suspensions. Draft picks. Do it. I'm good with it if it helps clean up the game, and I can comfortably watch my team knowing that they're on the up and up.

    But if they only punish the Astros and don't implement rules to really address the root of the problem, then they're not fixing anything. Make sign stealing impossible and create regulations that say "Breaking this rule results in this specific punishment." And don't stop there. Look at cheating beyond just sign stealing and actually implement regulations that prevent it and create punishments for the violators.

    This is steroids all over again. If you only punish the individual violators when you're lucky enough to catch them in the act and implement no policies across the sport, then nothing's going to change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mightybosstone View Post
    That's absurd. If baseball does that, then I expect extremely thorough investigations into all 30 teams and similar punishment for every other player or team breaking MLB rules. I don't think there's a team in the league that would be comfortable with that happening, your Yankees included.

    The Astros absolutely deserve a thorough investigation into the organization and some harsh penalties. Fines. Suspensions. Draft picks. Do it. I'm good with it if it helps clean up the game, and I can comfortably watch my team knowing that they're on the up and up.

    But if they only punish the Astros and don't implement rules to really address the root of the problem, then they're not fixing anything. Make sign stealing impossible and create regulations that say "Breaking this rule results in this specific punishment." And don't stop there. Look at cheating beyond just sign stealing and actually implement regulations that prevent it and create punishments for the violators.

    This is steroids all over again. If you only punish the individual violators when you're lucky enough to catch them in the act and implement no policies across the sport, then nothing's going to change.
    I wasn't being serious. They're obviously not taking away a championship lol

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    Am sure this is happening in all organizations just by different means. Everyone is looking for a competitive advantage. Suspend Lunhow, fine the organization and take away some draft picks/IFA slot allotments.

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    I think the punishment needs to be pretty severe. As Fiers said it's about more then just the cheating aspect.

    "I just want the game to be cleaned up a little bit because there are guys who are losing their jobs because they're going in there not knowing," Fiers said in the story. "Young guys getting hit around in the first couple of innings starting a game, and then they get sent down. It's [B.S.] on that end. It's ruining jobs for younger guys. The guys who know are more prepared. But most people don't. That's why I told my team. We had a lot of young guys with Detroit [in 2018] trying to make a name and establish themselves. I wanted to help them out and say, 'Hey, this stuff really does go on. Just be prepared.'"

    I also wonder about the impact on a guy like Yu Darvish. He had a great year, and a great playoffs, up to the world series where he got rocked, in the most important games of his career, by an Astros team that seemed to know everything that was coming. He considered retirement and even started messing with his delivery to avoid tipping pitches because that was the assumption. Turns out they knew what was coming because of surveillance equipment.

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    Flat out bush league.

    Although I doubt they're the only ones doing it. They just got caught.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

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    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1...965437952?s=08

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCSownsU View Post
    https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1...965437952?s=08

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    Thanks for the link. I like Jomboy's stuff but feel as though his Yankee fanship is affecting his thoughts on this a bit (mainly when he starts talking about Hinch at the end).

    PSD: where the moderators consistently cave to crybaby tattletales and it's a lot safer to be openly racist, hateful, and ignorant than to be a little rude to the racist, hateful, and ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Thanks for the link. I like Jomboy's stuff but feel as though his Yankee fanship is affecting his thoughts on this a bit (mainly when he starts talking about Hinch at the end).
    Oh yeah, his Yankee bias is showing a bit.

    Video evidence is pretty damming though.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    I dislike almost everything from Jomboy, but this video is good.

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