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    Quote Originally Posted by smood999 View Post
    He's a specimen, but like Ayton (who is also a specimen), people question his motor...maybe even more so. I agree though that he'll likely go number 1.
    Dunno anything about the kid, seems a bit early to question his motor though. Ayton never really played with a mean streak the way this dude does.

    It would suck if hes just another player who just doesnt care, because he has atg potential.

    No team is going to look at that dude and pass on him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeAnotherL View Post
    Dunno anything about the kid, seems a bit early to question his motor though. Ayton never really played with a mean streak the way this dude does.

    It would suck if hes just another player who just doesnt care, because he has atg potential.

    No team is going to look at that dude and pass on him though.
    Iím saying they both had the same concerns as high schoolers and thatís the perception around him. Not saying it wonít or canít change, but thatís on him. Ayton was somewhat successful at changing that perception, Iím sure he can be too. I was more so answering your question as to why he might not be a no brainer at number one, but I agree heíll get taken first just like Ayton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by still a fan View Post
    Wiseman has offense though? He's smooth, talented, just has natural ability and talent to match his size
    Just meant in terms of their strengths. He seems to be more grounded on the defensive side of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeAnotherL View Post
    He very well could be, every team wants a pg who knocks down the 3.

    But wiseman is built like a tank. Physically he looks the way a #1 pick should look. If your the opposing team, that dude is going to indimidate you. Thats a rare speciman right there.

    Its early so who knows. But i cant get excited about any of them yet because this team finds ways to mess things up.
    Exactly that's why you draft Wiseman

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    Last edited by smood999; 11-14-2019 at 02:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smood999 View Post
    Maybe theres some truth to what people said, i still dont think It changes his draft stock.

    Theres just no way a nba team is going go look at wiseman and other player side by side and pick the other guy.

    The other guys are good, none of them scream special though. Still very early though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeAnotherL View Post
    Maybe theres some truth to what people said, i still dont think It changes his draft stock.

    Theres just no way a nba team is going go look at wiseman and other player side by side and pick the other guy.

    The other guys are good, none of them scream special though. Still very early though.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeAnotherL View Post
    Maybe theres some truth to what people said, i still dont think It changes his draft stock.

    Theres just no way a nba team is going go look at wiseman and other player side by side and pick the other guy.

    The other guys are good, none of them scream special though. Still very early though.
    Wiseman screams special certainly much more than Cole Anthony that's for sure

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    James Wiseman would be an intriguing prospect BUT Knick Front Office nor the fans are patient with big men. Wiseman has been compared to Embiid but Joel took THREE seasons to grow into his body, recover from injuries before he could play at least 60+ games.

    Anthony Edwards would be another intriguing prospect BUT I don't think the Front Office would place their faith in Frank Ntilikina as the primary point guard.

    Lamelo Ball would be a distraction?!?!?

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    Only knicks fans would draft the lonely center in a guard heavy draft. He's good, but when was the last time a center made it to the finals? Look at our team? Do we need a center? Get Anthony or whoever is the best guard out there. Enough with drafting forwards or centers.
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    Or draft Deni

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    Quote Originally Posted by PewPew View Post
    Only knicks fans would draft the lonely center in a guard heavy draft. He's good, but when was the last time a center made it to the finals? Look at our team? Do we need a center? Get Anthony or whoever is the best guard out there. Enough with drafting forwards or centers.
    Haha yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by pewpew View Post
    only knicks fans would draft the lonely center in a guard heavy draft. He's good, but when was the last time a center made it to the finals? Look at our team? Do we need a center? Get anthony or whoever is the best guard out there. Enough with drafting forwards or centers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PewPew View Post
    Only knicks fans would draft the lonely center in a guard heavy draft. He's good, but when was the last time a center made it to the finals? Look at our team? Do we need a center? Get Anthony or whoever is the best guard out there. Enough with drafting forwards or centers.
    Lol hell yea man. We're soft in the middle and also need a real gritty pf who can stretch the floor at times. But I'm all in on Edwards. That's my guy. He's just to likable with elite talent. Ny will love him. We can't pass on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by PewPew View Post
    Only knicks fans would draft the lonely center in a guard heavy draft. He's good, but when was the last time a center made it to the finals? Look at our team? Do we need a center? Get Anthony or whoever is the best guard out there. Enough with drafting forwards or centers.
    Being a top level team has nothing to do with what positions you have good players at.

    Its about being special. Being unique, and talented in ways no other team is.

    And wiseman is special. Im not knocking cole, i still honestly dont have a good read on him.

    But for sure, i know, wiseman is special.

    I played against multiple nba players and high level d1 players, including jimmer multiple times. Hes a legend in upstate ny. I took a lot of **** for telling people he wasnt physically gifted enough for the NBA.

    At that time no one believed me. But i knew he wouldnt make it because i played against guys far quicker and faster than him that i thought for sure would be nba players and they didnt do ****.

    Not saying cole is another jimmer. Hes far more physically gifted. But is he nba level physically gifted? I dunno that yet.

    Edwards is far more nba built to me right now than cole.

    And wiseman is physically a nba prototype dream player.

    The majority of basketball fans, really dont understand how athletic nba players are and how much that matters. I didnt understand until i saw players i went up against, fail in the nba.
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