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  1. #5221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett2010 View Post
    Sam V. of the Athletic released his latest mock and here are some highlights...

    Edwards, Ball, and Wiseman are the top 3 picks.

    The Knicks do not make any draft trades.

    They take Toppin with the 8th pick and Nico with the 27th pick.

    Hayes goes 10th, Nesmith goes 11th

    Cole goes 13th and Lewis goes 14th

    Poku goes 18th (That's for you Starks lol)

    I don't love it. I want one of the top 3 PGs on the Knicks. Not a huge fan of Toppin. For some reason I am thinking this mock to be more realistic than other mocks I have seen.
    Awful mock. Toppin is a horrible fit, especially with Hayes, Cole, and Lewis on the board. And Nico is not an NBA player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett2010 View Post
    Sam V. of the Athletic released his latest mock and here are some highlights...

    Edwards, Ball, and Wiseman are the top 3 picks.

    The Knicks do not make any draft trades.

    They take Toppin with the 8th pick and Nico with the 27th pick.

    Hayes goes 10th, Nesmith goes 11th

    Cole goes 13th and Lewis goes 14th

    Poku goes 18th (That's for you Starks lol)

    I don't love it. I want one of the top 3 PGs on the Knicks. Not a huge fan of Toppin. For some reason I am thinking this mock to be more realistic than other mocks I have seen.
    Welp... Iíd literally take every one of those 10-18 guys over Toppin. Feel like thatís a huge mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beagleboss View Post
    Not a fan of Haliburton. Too many flaws with this body, lack of penetrating ability, lack of isolation moves and funky looking jumper. Type of player who will be injury prone unless he changes his body. I don't see him being a legit starting PG. Most likely he'll be a shooting specialist and secondary ball handler off the bench.
    Yeah thatís another thing not discussed with Tyrese, he broke his foot and could be injury prone. Same goes for LaMelo tbh. Both have really skinny bodies that may or may not fill out like people expect. Obviously LaMelo has a better chance in this regard since he had a recent growth spurt and is younger by over a year.

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    OBi & Nico sounds like the most Knicks draft ever...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett2010 View Post
    Sam V. of the Athletic released his latest mock and here are some highlights...

    Edwards, Ball, and Wiseman are the top 3 picks.

    The Knicks do not make any draft trades.

    They take Toppin with the 8th pick and Nico with the 27th pick.

    Hayes goes 10th, Nesmith goes 11th

    Cole goes 13th and Lewis goes 14th

    Poku goes 18th (That's for you Starks lol)

    I don't love it. I want one of the top 3 PGs on the Knicks. Not a huge fan of Toppin. For some reason I am thinking this mock to be more realistic than other mocks I have seen.
    Dam we fell all the way to 8th lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Letís hope thatís very inaccurate...
    I would agree. All those PGs passed up for Toppin...

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    i rather swing for the fences and take Poku before taking Obi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba313 View Post
    Awful mock. Toppin is a horrible fit, especially with Hayes, Cole, and Lewis on the board. And Nico is not an NBA player.
    The Toppin pick feels so much like the Knicks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    OBi & Nico sounds like the most Knicks draft ever...lol
    100% agree that's why it seemed so realistic. Just hope that first pick is not Toppin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    i rather swing for the fences and take Poku before taking Obi
    Can I take door #3 and actually take a PG? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    OBi & Nico sounds like the most Knicks draft ever...lol
    Just threw up in my mouth thinking about it..

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    The Knicks fall to No. 8 here, which would obviously be a pretty rough result. Really, the team should just be looking for the best available non-center in the draft. With Mitchell Robinson, they have that position covered long-term. In this scenario, they get lucky and find the good complement to Robinson. Whereas Robinson is one of the best rim-runners in the game and a monster in the dunker spot due to his ability to leap vertically and high-point the ball as well as offensive rebound, Toppin is arguably the most skilled offensive forward in this draft class. Heís a terrific shooter, a good decision-maker who can really pass it, he finishes around the rim at an elite level, and has some shot-creation ability off the bounce. And additionally, whereas the the concern with Toppin is on defense, Robinsonís upside as a defensive interior presence would really help clean up if Toppinís translation on that end doesnít totally work.

    The Dayton forward was my vote for national player of the year in college basketball after averaging 20 points, nearly eight rebounds and 2.2 assists per game. The way defenses had to transform what they did to account for him was ridiculous, as his speed and quickness in ball screens is really difficult for centers and power forwards to handle. Heíd really help take some pressure off of R.J. Barrett on the offensive end, spacing the floor for him and forcing defenders to be accountable to where he is on the floor. I will also note that it doesnít hurt that Toppin is repped by CAA, which obviously has a very strong connection to the Knicks front office following the hiring of Leon Rose this past spring.

    Sam V. The Athletic


    I did not know Toppin was repped by CAA. Oh boy this could actually happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett2010 View Post
    The Knicks fall to No. 8 here, which would obviously be a pretty rough result. Really, the team should just be looking for the best available non-center in the draft. With Mitchell Robinson, they have that position covered long-term. In this scenario, they get lucky and find the good complement to Robinson. Whereas Robinson is one of the best rim-runners in the game and a monster in the dunker spot due to his ability to leap vertically and high-point the ball as well as offensive rebound, Toppin is arguably the most skilled offensive forward in this draft class. Heís a terrific shooter, a good decision-maker who can really pass it, he finishes around the rim at an elite level, and has some shot-creation ability off the bounce. And additionally, whereas the the concern with Toppin is on defense, Robinsonís upside as a defensive interior presence would really help clean up if Toppinís translation on that end doesnít totally work.

    The Dayton forward was my vote for national player of the year in college basketball after averaging 20 points, nearly eight rebounds and 2.2 assists per game. The way defenses had to transform what they did to account for him was ridiculous, as his speed and quickness in ball screens is really difficult for centers and power forwards to handle. Heíd really help take some pressure off of R.J. Barrett on the offensive end, spacing the floor for him and forcing defenders to be accountable to where he is on the floor. I will also note that it doesnít hurt that Toppin is repped by CAA, which obviously has a very strong connection to the Knicks front office following the hiring of Leon Rose this past spring.

    Sam V. The Athletic


    I did not know Toppin was repped by CAA. Oh boy this could actually happen...
    Surprised by this frankly terrible take from Sam V.

    I love how he acknowledges that Mitch is one of the best rim-runners in the league and a monster finisher, but ignores that that's basically Toppin's exact same strength.

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    Here is their write-up on Toppin:

    The Knicks fall to No. 8 here, which would obviously be a pretty rough result. Really, the team should just be looking for the best available non-center in the draft. With Mitchell Robinson, they have that position covered long-term. In this scenario, they get lucky and find a good complement to Robinson. Whereas Robinson is one of the best rim-runners in the game and a monster in the dunker spot due to his ability to leap vertically and high-point the ball as well as offensive rebound, Toppin is arguably the most skilled offensive forward in this draft class. Heís a terrific shooter, a good decision-maker who can really pass it, he finishes around the rim at an elite level, and has some shot-creation ability off the bounce. And additionally, whereas the concern with Toppin is on defense, Robinsonís upside as a defensive interior presence would really help clean up if Toppinís translation on that end doesnít totally work.

    The Dayton forward was my vote for national player of the year in college basketball after averaging 20 points, 7.5 rebounds and 2.2 assists per game. The way defenses had to transform what they did to account for him was ridiculous, as his speed and quickness in ball screens is really difficult for centers and power forwards to handle. Heíd really help take some pressure off of R.J. Barrett on the offensive end, spacing the floor for him and forcing defenders to be accountable to where he is on the floor. I will also note that it doesnít hurt that Toppin is repped by CAA, which obviously has a very strong connection to the Knicks front office following the hiring of Leon Rose this past spring.
    I do agree which is why Iíve been a fan of Toppin for us if the right players are gone. If they donít feel comfortable investing in Wood, I would be happy with this. Wood is really the only reason why I wouldnít want Toppin because theyíd fill the same role and it wouldnít be a smart allocation of resources IMO.

    However, in this specific scenario I would still take Hayes even though people are questioning his shot. I think we would be extremely fortunate to draft him at #8. But if the Pistons in this case took Hayes and Tyrese was available instead, Iíd like Toppin a lot more.

    If we pass on Toppin, Iíll take Nesmith or Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna View Post
    Yeah thatís another thing not discussed with Tyrese, he broke his foot and could be injury prone. Same goes for LaMelo tbh. Both have really skinny bodies that may or may not fill out like people expect. Obviously LaMelo has a better chance in this regard since he had a recent growth spurt and is younger by over a year.
    I think Hali broke his hand.

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