Like us on Facebook


Follow us on Twitter





View Poll Results: Who deserves a spot in the HOF?

Voters
4. You may not vote on this poll
  • Dwight Evans

    1 25.00%
  • Steve Garvey

    0 0%
  • Tommy John

    1 25.00%
  • Don Mattingly

    1 25.00%
  • Marvin Miller

    1 25.00%
  • Thurman Munson

    2 50.00%
  • Dale Murphy

    2 50.00%
  • Dave Parker

    0 0%
  • Ted Simmons

    3 75.00%
  • Lou Whitaker

    3 75.00%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 38
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    38,833

    2020 Modern Baseball Era ballot announced

    Dwight Evans
    Steve Garvey
    Tommy John
    Don Mattingly
    Marvin Miller
    Thurman Munson
    Dale Murphy
    Dave Parker
    Ted Simmons
    Lou Whitaker


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    56,809
    For those wanting stats and ranks per position

    These are incredibly weak options for the ballot, outside of Whitaker.

    Player - most played position - rWAR/rWAR average for their position - WAR7/WAR7 avg - JAWS/JAWS avg

    Dale Murphy - CF - 46.5/71.1 - 35th - 41.2/44.5 - 19th - 43.9/57.8 - 26th - 19 total Centerfielders in the Hall

    Lou Whitaker - 2B - 75.1/69.4 - 7th - 37.9/44.4 - 21st - 56.5/56.9 - 14th - 19 total second basemen in the Hall

    Dave Parker - RF - 40.1/71.5 - 52nd - 37.4/42.1 - 29th - 38.7/56.8 - 40th - 26 total rightfielders in the Hall

    Dwight Evans - RF - 67.1/71.5 - 15th - 37.3/42.1 - 30th - 52.2/56.8 - 16th - 26 total rightfielders in the Hall

    Thurman Munson - 46.1/54.3 - 17th - 37.0/35.1 - 8th - 41.6/44.7 - 13th - 15 total catchers in the Hall

    Don Mattingly - 42.4/66.8 - 39th - 35.7/42.7 - 33rd - 39.1/54.8 - 40th - 21 total First basemen in the Hall

    Ted Simmons - 50.3/54.3 - 11th - 34.8/35.1 - 15th - 42.6/44.7 - 11th - 15 total catchers in the Hall

    Tommy John - 61.5/73.2 - 57th - 34.6/49.9 - 164th - 48.0/61.5 - 86th - 68 total pitchers in the Hall

    Steve Garvey - 38.1/66.8 - 52nd - 28.8/42.7 - 54th - 33.4/54.8 - 53rd - 21 total first basemen in the Hall


    Should go in - Lou Whitaker
    I'd still probably vote for them, but they aren't locks - Dwight Evans, Thurman Munson, Ted Simmons
    Wouldn't be horrible if they went in, but I'd be against it - Dale Murphy
    Borderline out - Dave Parker, Don Mattingly, Tommy John
    Harold Baines/Jack Morris level joke if they go in - Steve Garvey

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    La Puente, CA
    Posts
    14,019
    If Tommy John is up there, then Jim Kaat belongs up there too.

    Future Hall of Shamers:
    (1) B.A.L.C.O. Barroids (2) Mark McJuicer (3) Jose Chem-seco (4) Rafael Palmeiroids (5) Ken Chem-initi (6) Jason Gi-andro (7) Ryan Fraud (8) Muscle Melk (9) Woman-Ram (10) Shammy Sosa (11) Roger Clear-mens (12) A-Roid (13) Ryan HGHoward

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    33,470
    Jim Kaat doesn't have a surgery named after him

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Southeast Asia
    Posts
    3,390
    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Jim Kaat doesn't have a surgery named after him
    lol

    But then there's the Kaat Scan...


    "They throw the ball, I hit it. They hit the ball, I catch it." - Willie Mays

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    SWFL
    Posts
    30,020
    I know Dale Murphy didn't have the long career but his peak is as good as anyone's in CF. Not sure how they can keep a 2x MVP out of the HoF.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    44,043
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    I know Dale Murphy didn't have the long career but his peak is as good as anyone's in CF. Not sure how they can keep a 2x MVP out of the HoF.
    Should hopefully be easier than keeping a 7x MVP out.

    "there's no scraps in my scrapbook"

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    56,809
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    I know Dale Murphy didn't have the long career but his peak is as good as anyone's in CF. Not sure how they can keep a 2x MVP out of the HoF.
    His 7 year peak, is 19th among centerfielders in terms of peak centerfielder runs.

    He was great from 82-87, but that was really all it was, and it was still just a 142 OPS+ and 34.1 rWAR

    Even if he averaged that for his entire career, he'd still be 11th all time offensively (among centerfielders)

    Give me Reggie Smith before you give me Dale Murphy

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    La Puente, CA
    Posts
    14,019
    Murphy declined too abruptly and too early. That's why he's not in.

    Future Hall of Shamers:
    (1) B.A.L.C.O. Barroids (2) Mark McJuicer (3) Jose Chem-seco (4) Rafael Palmeiroids (5) Ken Chem-initi (6) Jason Gi-andro (7) Ryan Fraud (8) Muscle Melk (9) Woman-Ram (10) Shammy Sosa (11) Roger Clear-mens (12) A-Roid (13) Ryan HGHoward

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Phanland
    Posts
    7,120
    Ted Simmons and Lou Whitaker

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    West Side
    Posts
    12,202
    Mattingly walking out on the championship Springfield Nuclear Power Plant softball team the day of the championship game because he wouldn't cut his side burns is definitely a black eye going against him.

    Or did Burns cut him? I don't remember but it was a huge controversy.


    The Lost Boys of PSD

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    56,809
    ^ that is awesome, gold star my friend.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    I'm Gonna Walk Hell Track, So Cal
    Posts
    1,514
    Quote Originally Posted by statquo View Post
    Mattingly walking out on the championship Springfield Nuclear Power Plant softball team the day of the championship game because he wouldn't cut his side burns is definitely a black eye going against him.

    Or did Burns cut him? I don't remember but it was a huge controversy.
    Yeah, Iím pretty sure he cut the side burns; just the side burns lol. Burns still called him a hippy and he took off. He still likes him better than Steinbrenner though.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    37,315
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    I know Dale Murphy didn't have the long career but his peak is as good as anyone's in CF. Not sure how they can keep a 2x MVP out of the HoF.
    Easy, he's not a hall of famer. He had a good career, but he wasn't great nearly long enough.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    37,315
    I still can't believe the players haven't voted in Marvin Miller. He did so much for the players. You would think the older players would have acknowledged that.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •