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  1. #1456
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I've said before that aid has been used to negotiate before, and it will be done again.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ing-up-ukraine

    Democrats entire allegation relies on Joe Biden being nothing but a political opponent, but the already known Biden corruption eliminates that allegation. without that there was no abuse of power.

    had this been one of the other Democrat nominees there could be a point that it was political because there would be nothing there to cause Trump as President to want them investigated, but there is multiple evidence related to Joe Biden.
    Careful now, you need to talk to all your conservative buddies, they are still arguing he never did this.

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    While investigating Joe Biden, Lev Parnas received a $1M payment from a Russian oligarch. Even when we’re talking Ukraine, were really talking Russia. Rudy works for free for a Trump. Rudy gets paid by Parnas. Parnas gets paid by Russians.

    As Nancy said, all roads lead to Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Careful now, you need to talk to all your conservative buddies, they are still arguing he never did this.
    never negotiated with aid, or never did quid pro quo? you haven't wanted to answer what IS quid pro quo.
    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

    a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.
    #TrumpDerangementSyndrome
    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    What’s this court filled with kangaroos?


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    Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent.

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    Representative Ratcliffe out here with the memory attacks saying that the Chairman might not remember something that happened a couple hours ago. Amazing that the Senate Republicans said no to this guy being the DNI. Why would they have not been willing to vote for that clown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Representative Ratcliffe out here with the memory attacks saying that the Chairman might not remember something that happened a couple hours ago. Amazing that the Senate Republicans said no to this guy being the DNI. Why would they have not been willing to vote for that clown?
    On your 10th bag of popcorn?

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    Schiff, Pelosi and Nadler constantly talk about the rule of law.

    Give me a freaking break!

    They live in sanctuary cities and ignore Federal Law!

    These three need to shut up!
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    Eric Holder talking about Trump and Obstruction of Congress is so hilarious!

    Fast and Furious?

    He ran and hid behind Obama.

    The Dems need to stop!
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    Did Comey talk to Brennan
    And Clapper?
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    This is such a waste of time. Republicans not even talking about the case, haven't for hours

    Guy Reschentqaler currently threatening all his political rivals. What a chode
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino17 View Post
    This is such a waste of time.
    Yes it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino17 View Post
    This is such a waste of time. Republicans not even talking about the case, haven't for hours

    Guy Reschentqaler currently threatening all his political rivals. What a chode

    Instead of helpin the American people the Dems clog up everything with this stupid impeachment crap.

    Instead of fact witnesses the Dems call up law professors and ask their opinions.

    How ridiculous is that!

    All of this nonsense is being displayed in front of the American people because the Dems know they cannot beat Trump in 2020 with their weak candidates led by Joe Biden.

    Pelosi will sacrifice 31 of her own for this garbage as they will now get crushed in their elections.

    Schiff, Pelosi and Nadler...what a comical trio they are. What an embarrassment for leaders of a party.

    They were calling for impeachment hours after he was elected and having been on this train ever since.

    They still can’t believe he won.

    The economy is roaring and they see 4 more years. They can’t handle it.
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    So Nadler in 2018 said impeachment should be done if it is bipartisan...

    He said it not the repercussions could last 20 yrs.

    Why has he changed?

    It is not bipartisan at all.

    This is all Pelosi bowing down to her base.

    A complete joke!
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    Jerry Nadler..

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/12/j...country-apart/

    House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler repeatedly said in 2018 that bipartisan support was a prerequisite for impeaching President Donald Trump.

    But the New York Democrat is now guiding through his committee two articles of impeachment that have no meaningful support from either Republicans in Congress or Republican voters.

    “If you’re serious about impeaching a president, it cannot and should not be done on a partisan basis. You have to have, at least by the end of the process, buy-in from the Republicans, or at least a good number of Republicans,” Nadler said in a February 2018 MSNBC interview.

    He added that “if you’re really serious about removing a president from office for high crimes and misdemeanors, you shouldn’t do that unless you get at least an appreciable fraction of the people who voted for him, of the other side, to agree, reluctantly perhaps, to agree that ‘yeah, you had to do it,’ because otherwise you’ll have 20 years of recriminations. we won the election, you stole it from us. you don’t want to divide the country that way.”

    Nadler sounded a similar note in September 2018, when he warned that a one-party impeachment would be misguided.

    “Impeachment should not be partisan,” the veteran congressman said at a Crain’s breakfast forum in New York. “You have to be in a situation to undertake impeachment where you believe that once all the evidence is public, not a majority but a good fraction of the opposition voters who supported the president would say, ‘Well, they had to do it. It was the right thing to do,'” he said, telling attendees he wouldn’t “tear the country apart.”

    Nadler in November 2018 again warned that a partisan impeachment process would “tear the country apart.”

    “Because you don’t want to tear the country apart, you don’t want half the country to say to the other half for the next 30 years, ‘We won the election, you stole it from us.’ You have to be able to think at the beginning of the impeachment process that the evidence is so clear of offenses so grave that once you’ve lay out all the evidence, a good fraction of the opposition voters will reluctantly admit to themselves, ‘They had to do it.’ Otherwise you have a partisan impeachment, which will tear the country apart,” he said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

    Now, Nadler is guiding articles of impeachment through the Judiciary Committee, which is expected to hold a vote Thursday to send impeachment to the House floor. Zero Republicans in Congress have indicated they will vote to impeach the president, while moderate Democrats in the House have waffled on the issue.

    Republican voters are overwhelmingly opposed to impeachment as well. A Quinnipiac poll released Tuesday found a majority of voters, including a majority of independents, oppose impeaching and removing the president from office, with just 3% of registered Republicans in support, and 12% of Democrats opposed.

    Nadler spokesman Daniel Schwarz said in an email that the congressman “has gone into great detail about his 3 part [impeachment] test many times.”




    Jerry Nadler 1998..

    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Either care about all of it like a decent human being or shut the **** up and stop selective outrage based on whether it serves your political purposes.

    a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.
    #TrumpDerangementSyndrome
    the anti-Trump movement seems to be getting dumber

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    When one party is captured by another foreign country, we don’t have time to wait for them to realize their mistakes. Donald Trump is currently having his personal lawyer continue chasing down sham conspiracy theories propagated by the Russian Federation during the investigation. He still hasn’t had a meeting ahead of Zelinsky’s meeting with Putin meanwhile he has had the time to interrupt his 100+ tweet frenzy to have the Russian foreign minister to the White House.

    Nancy correctly pointed out that all roads lead to Putin.

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