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  1. #406
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapjuicer06 View Post
    And that's a mistake. What happens when Yaddys done? Were ****ed. That's how you screw yourself
    Ivan Herrera looks like he's on track to be MLB ready mid 2021. And they seem to like him a lot.

    The guy came out of nowhere.

    Also, Julio Rodriguez is a solid catching prospect.

    Knizner has not improved defensively at all, he needs the automated strike zone to be invented for him to stay at catcher imo.

    He might be better off as a C/1B/3B long term type player, which could work in a 26th man roster spot. Along with Edman being the depth player at 2B/SS/3B/LF/RF to compliment him.

    You can hold both on roster spots with a more permanent backup at Catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkais9009 View Post
    Just my opinion... I think another year of Yadi behind the plate is worth more than what Knizner would be if he was getting regular ABs in 2020.

    Looking to 2021 on paper right now, I think Knizner should get the majority of playing time.

    But for now, I want Yadi to start, Wieters to play backup once a week, and Knizner to be in AAA keeping that bat fresh. If Yadi goes down for an extended period, Knizner can take over as starter
    Right.

    And you have to assume one of Yadi/Weiters will miss a lot of time due to injury at some point. We are going to see Knizner on the MLB roster plenty this year, I'm sure of it.

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    You need 3 catchers on the 40 man, we now have 3 catchers on the 40 man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Ivan Herrera looks like he's on track to be MLB ready mid 2021. And they seem to like him a lot.

    The guy came out of nowhere.

    Also, Julio Rodriguez is a solid catching prospect.

    Knizner has not improved defensively at all, he needs the automated strike zone to be invented for him to stay at catcher imo.

    He might be better off as a C/1B/3B long term type player, which could work in a 26th man roster spot. Along with Edman being the depth player at 2B/SS/3B/LF/RF to compliment him.

    You can hold both on roster spots with a more permanent backup at Catcher.
    You really think Herrera will be ready next year? I don't think theres a chance
    2019

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    RB-Montgomery
    WR-AJ Brown, Hakeem Butler
    TE-TJ Hockenson
    Edge-Allen
    LB-Devon White, Blake Cashman
    CB-Joejuan Williams
    S-Dieonte Thompson

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapjuicer06 View Post
    You really think Herrera will be ready next year? I don't think theres a chance
    Middle/end, it's certainly possible. They are bullish on him like they were with Yadier at this point. He'll probably spend the majority of this season in AA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Middle/end, it's certainly possible. They are bullish on him like they were with Yadier at this point. He'll probably spend the majority of this season in AA
    I guess I'm not as optimistic
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    QB-Lock
    RB-Montgomery
    WR-AJ Brown, Hakeem Butler
    TE-TJ Hockenson
    Edge-Allen
    LB-Devon White, Blake Cashman
    CB-Joejuan Williams
    S-Dieonte Thompson

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapjuicer06 View Post
    I guess I'm not as optimistic
    Why?

    Fangraphs already has him as our 4th best prospect, and he was the youngest player at his level this year and went to the AFL

    He's currently Yadier 2.0 but with a better bat (Peoria is a pitchers league and he did great, especially for a 19 year old)

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    With the Wieters signing

    We have no 40 man spots open at the moment

    We are at $171.98M in OD payroll, and $6M available in incentives.

    It's possible this is them done.

    But, I show that they could absorb up to an additional $7.03M in payroll throughout the season. Either now in a signing, or through a trade at the deadline for a pro-rated salary. They could take on Ozuna, if they could find a taker for Fowler still.

    We have $28.79M left in Luxury Tax spending.


    I have us down at 88.5 wins projected, with Martinez as a 2.5 WAR 2nd starter in the rotation and Gallegos closing. I have the Cubs at 90 wins, but that's with a 4.5 win Bryant slated into their lineup.

    If we can find a way to add Ozuna, who is more of a 3.0 win player, over whatever combinations we can get from our young left fielders, that's an additional 1.5 wins, which puts us into the 90 win marker. Which, for me, makes it a worthy investment to find a way to add Ozuna back into the fold.


    Roster and payroll

    C - Molina - $20.00M - 2.0 WAR
    1B - Goldie - $26.00M - 3.5 WAR
    2B - Wong - $10.25M - 3.5 WAR
    SS - DeJong - $1.67M - 4.0 WAR
    3B - Carpenter - $18.5M - 2.0 WAR
    LF - O'Neill - $575K - 1.5 WAR
    CF - Bader - $575K - 3.0 WAR
    RF - Fowler - $16.5M - 1.0 WAR

    Bench
    Util - Edman - $575K - 2.0 WAR
    C - Wieters - $2.0M - 0.0 WAR
    PH - Ravelo - $575K - 0.0 WAR
    OF - Thomas - $575K - 0.0 WAR (or O'Neill, I'm putting their WAR as a combined total among young outfielders)
    IF - Munoz - $575K - 0.0 WAR

    Total position players - 22.5 WAR

    Rotation
    1. Flaherty - $575K - 4.5 WAR
    2. Martinez - $11.70M - 2.5 WAR
    3. Mikolas - $17.0M - 2.5 WAR
    4. Hudson - $575K - 2.0 WAR
    5. Wainwright - $5.0M - 1.0 WAR

    Bullpen
    Long - Kim - $4.0M - 1.0 WAR (will get more WAR due to starting some)
    R - Brebbia - $575K - 0.5 WAR
    R - Gant - $575K - 0.5 WAR
    R - Fernandez - $575K - 0.5 WAR
    R - Helsley - $575K - 0.5 WAR
    L - Webb - $575K - 0.5 WAR
    L - Miller - $11.50M - 0.5 WAR
    R - Gallegos - $575K - 1.5 WAR (combined with Hicks)

    Total pitchers - 18.0 WAR

    Total extra pay outs
    Cecil - $7.0M
    Leake - $4.0M
    40 Man completion - $8.05M

    Total pay - $171.98M
    Incentives available - $6.0M
    Budget of $185M
    Budget room of - $7.03M
    Luxury Tax Room - $28.79M
    Projected wins - 88.5


    Thoughts?
    Last edited by Jeffy25; 01-20-2020 at 03:03 PM.

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    ^ So in order to get Ozuna, maybe they can get him on a 3/$45M deal, where the first years pay is only $10M, the second year is $15M, and the third year is a club option for $20M, with a $10M buy-out. So he'd be promised $35M over the next 2 years (QO total), and likely to get $45M over the next 3 years.

    And then we can easily absorb him. He fits barely into the 2020 budget, and with Molina's $20M falling off next year, we can more easily pay him $15M next year with a Molina extension. This would clog the outfield more, but we could shop O'Neill for a young reliever who had closer upside (ideally a lefty) - maybe Jose Suarez of the Angels?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to go with O'Neill/Bader/Fowler until Carlson is ready, and keep the financial flexibility for the deadline and next year. But our win now curve means we should be doing whatever we can to spend that last $7M to add a win or two if we can, and our outfield is the obvious weakness.

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    Mo says they are not actively in any trade discussions. Sounds like Arenado is not happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obabikon View Post
    Mo says they are not actively in any trade discussions. Sounds like Arenado is not happening
    And Bridich said he's not being traded.

    Not a real surprise, it was beyond complicated to hope it could even happen.

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    It only made sense if the Cardinals got him for less than his contract. I'm sure the Rockies had a hard time justifying paying for prospects.

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    Now that we're officially moving past Nolan A.

    https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news...es-last-season


    Lots of teammates are bullish on Marp. I think his stats are going to be good. He had bounced back quite a bit in August and September.


    Also... I think Brebbia should be our closer until Hicks returns.

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    So it took him the whole freaking year to realize he needed to change his approach?

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    With Carp... would we be happy with a slash of .265/.360/.450 with 500 AB's in 2020?

    I think that will be close to the slash line. It was also incredibly close to his slash line in Aug/Sept.


    Even if he changes his approach, he's going to have to drive the ball in the gaps. Not just slap singles the opposite way.

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