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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeShowAZ View Post
    The five best defensive power forwards of all time

    As part of the series, this list looks at the best defensive power forwards in NBA history. In case you missed it, Jason Kidd was the best defensive point guard, Michael Jordan was the best defensive shooting guard and John Havlicek led the way for small forwards.

    Although the previous lists featured minimal suspense, this list does feature some controversy: one of the most recognizable names is not a power forward. Like previous lists, players chosen for this list must have played a particular position for most, if not all, of their careers.

    And now, here are the top-five best defensive power forwards in NBA history.

    “The German Racecar”: Dirk Nowitzki

    As the original “stretch-four,” the sweet-shooting seven-footer is best known for his almost unstoppable fadeaway. Nowitzki used that to propel the Dallas Mavericks to an improbable championship run in 2011, upsetting LeBron James’ Miami Heat.

    As a 7-footer, Nowitzki relied on his offense and not his defense. Though he never made any All-Defensive Teams, he was still an able defender, having two seasons in the top-20 in defensive rating.

    Overall, his 62.5 DWS is 25th all-time. Not bad for a 7-footer that didn’t average more than 0.8 blocks and steals for his career.

    “Oak Tree”: Charles Oakley

    One of the premier enforcers in the NBA during the 1980s and 1990s, Oakley was as tough as they come: he played 1282 games and started 1159. His imposing nature on the court helped him get selected to one All-Star team during the 1993-94 season.

    Standing at 6-foot-8, Oakley was never a shot-blocker, instead racking up more than a steal per game. His savvy play resulted in two All-Defensive Team selections – one 1st team and 2nd team – and he had seven seasons in the top-20 in defensive win shares.

    Oakley’s 63.3 DWS is 23rd in NBA history. Although Oakley and Nowitzki are fairly close in terms of DWS standings, the next three blow them out.

    “The Big E”: Elvin Hayes

    Throughout his 16-year career, Hayes’ presence was felt all over the court: he averaged 21 points, 12.5 rebounds 1.8 assists, one steal and two blocks for his career. Averaging two blocks is an amazing feat for any player to accomplish, but bear in mind that “The Big E” stood at only 6-foot-9.

    Hayes had eight seasons in the top-20 in blocks and had 13 seasons in the top-20 in DWS. It’s surprising to see that he only made the All-Defensive team twice – both 2nd team selections – in his career.

    Nevertheless, his 83.6 DWS is good enough for eighth all-time in NBA history.

    “The Big Ticket”: Kevin Garnett

    No matter where he played, Garnett led by his intensity and defense: he averaged more than a block and a steal per game. “The Big Ticket” was the 2007-08 Defensive Player of the Year and his defense helped the 2008 Boston Celtics win the NBA championship.

    During his 21-year career, Garnett made the All-Defensive Team 12 times – nine times on the 1st team and three times on the 2nd team. He’s 18th all time in steals and blocks (1859 and 2037, respectively).

    Garnett’s defensive presence was instrumental to his success. That’s why the 2003-04

    MVP is seventh all-time with 91.4 DWS.

    “The Mailman”: Karl Malone

    As second in all-time points in NBA history (36,928), Malone’s offense was as steady as they come: he scored more than 20 points per game in 17 of his 19 seasons. Because of his longevity, Malone made 14 All-Star games and is a two-time MVP.

    Malone’s frame (6-foot-9, 250 pounds) made him an immovable force down in the low block. Even though he wasn’t the tallest defender, his individual defense helped him make four All-Defensive Teams – three times on the 1st team and once on the 2nd.

    In all, Malone’s 92.4 DWS is the most of any power forward, past or present, and is sixth in NBA history.

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    What the fart...

    Why is dirk nowitski mentioned on an all time defense list? The “25th in all time defensive win shares” is a longevity stat, he played in the 4th most games in nba history so he’s gonna have defensive longevity stats. But I’d probably put like 50 power forwards ahead of him tbh if we are talking just defense..

    Now offense, I fux with it, but defense? Hellllll no

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydubb View Post
    What the fart...

    Why is dirk nowitski mentioned on an all time defense list? The “25th in all time defensive win shares” is a longevity stat, he played in the 4th most games in nba history so he’s gonna have defensive longevity stats. But I’d probably put like 50 power forwards ahead of him tbh if we are talking just defense..

    Now offense, I fux with it, but defense? Hellllll no
    Some of these idiots nowadays pull shiiit from ....well...where shiiit comes from.

    I don't bother watching BSPN or waste time reading nonsense.

    The last dance has been pretty interesting to watch for other players prospective. What most of us think of Kobe in this Lakers Forum held true and no better prospective than from the players back when Kobe was a rookie. All the haters can eat some serious crow Shiiit.

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    Lmfao Dirk a defensive stopper.... good ole analytics

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    Idk what the **** you guys are talking about. Anytime you can do this to the games greatest flopper on offense has to warrant a top defensive rating.

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    Zion Williamson asked to admit parents received money, gifts from Duke, Nike and Adidas

    Attorneys representing Zion Williamson's former marketing representative and her company have asked the New Orleans Pelicans star to admit that his mother and stepfather demanded and received gifts, money and other benefits from persons acting on behalf of Adidas and Nike and also from people associated with Duke to influence him to sign with the Blue Devils and to wear Nike or Adidas products.

    https://www.prosportsdaily.com/artic...as-627724.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeShowAZ View Post
    Zion Williamson asked to admit parents received money, gifts from Duke, Nike and Adidas

    Attorneys representing Zion Williamson's former marketing representative and her company have asked the New Orleans Pelicans star to admit that his mother and stepfather demanded and received gifts, money and other benefits from persons acting on behalf of Adidas and Nike and also from people associated with Duke to influence him to sign with the Blue Devils and to wear Nike or Adidas products.

    https://www.prosportsdaily.com/artic...as-627724.html
    College players need to get paid. It’s ridiculous that these young 18-20 year old men are making the NCAA hundreds of millions of dollars every year but they are expected to live on tight budgets, get part time jobs on top of focusing on their college studies, and eat ramen and microwave burritos while they are at school. And then things like this where players get benefits under the table happen where let’s be real, probably happen all the ****ing time and the NCAA try to come after them hard for it. I don’t get it.. Let the kids get paid what they deserve or at the very least give them some kind of salary. The coaches are driving to practice in bugattis ferraris and lamborghinis and the players have to take public transportation because they can’t even afford to get their own transportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydubb View Post
    College players need to get paid. It’s ridiculous that these young 18-20 year old men are making the NCAA hundreds of millions of dollars every year but they are expected to live on tight budgets, get part time jobs on top of focusing on their college studies, and eat ramen and microwave burritos while they are at school. And then things like this where players get benefits under the table happen where let’s be real, probably happen all the ****ing time and the NCAA try to come after them hard for it. I don’t get it.. Let the kids get paid what they deserve or at the very least give them some kind of salary. The coaches are driving to practice in bugattis ferraris and lamborghinis and the players have to take public transportation because they can’t even afford to get their own transportation.
    I remember Shaq used to joke that he took a paycut after getting drafted by Orlando. The "paycut" I'm sure was exaggerated sarcasm but I'm also sure LSU took very well care of him.

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    Either pay them or let them go pro to get paid...

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    Mychal Thompsons top 15 all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAllen Tx View Post
    I remember Shaq used to joke that he took a paycut after getting drafted by Orlando. The "paycut" I'm sure was exaggerated sarcasm but I'm also sure LSU took very well care of him.
    Right. It’s gonna happen anyway, just make it legal

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    Either pay them or let them go pro to get paid...
    See the only problem I have with this is a lot of kids have a hard time getting accepted into college to further their education whether it’s financial reasons or other reasons. Sports can be a way for players to get into college to get that education so I do think they should still go to school because the NBA is still very unlikely even for good college players. Most times you have to be an elite college player to actually get paid in the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydubb View Post
    See the only problem I have with this is a lot of kids have a hard time getting accepted into college to further their education whether it’s financial reasons or other reasons. Sports can be a way for players to get into college to get that education so I do think they should still go to school because the NBA is still very unlikely even for good college players. Most times you have to be an elite college player to actually get paid in the NBA.
    IMO it would be great if every college could only pay 2 players - one $30K and the other $20K. That would put an end to Kentucky and Duke (along with a few others) signing every McDonald's All American. It'll be my 2 and squad against your 2 and squad.

    Maybe rest of the team could get something like a $200 a week spending cash. That should be enough for weed, Big Macs and Taco Bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAllen Tx View Post
    IMO it would be great if every college could only pay 2 players - one $30K and the other $20K. That would put an end to Kentucky and Duke (along with a few others) signing every McDonald's All American. It'll be my 2 and squad against your 2 and squad.

    Maybe rest of the team could get something like a $200 a week spending cash. That should be enough for weed, Big Macs and Taco Bell
    Yeah enough for the necessities which is weed Big Macs and Taco Bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAllen Tx View Post
    IMO it would be great if every college could only pay 2 players - one $30K and the other $20K. That would put an end to Kentucky and Duke (along with a few others) signing every McDonald's All American. It'll be my 2 and squad against your 2 and squad.

    Maybe rest of the team could get something like a $200 a week spending cash. That should be enough for weed, Big Macs and Taco Bell
    LOL Taco Bell was my daily food. All I could afford was 2 bean burritos and a water.

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