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    Why would it be a center embarrassing him? So easy for a guard to get the switch in modern era. He couldn’t guard a basic pick and roll with sheed and Chauncey. Dame on an island with Shaq, Shaq might as well retire. And honestly, Embiid would be pretty ****ing good under the old rules. The only guy that you can be confident about dominating any era is probably Arrdyvas Sabonis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecart View Post
    Why would it be a center embarrassing him? So easy for a guard to get the switch in modern era. He couldn’t guard a basic pick and roll with sheed and Chauncey. Dame on an island with Shaq, Shaq might as well retire. And honestly, Embiid would be pretty ****ing good under the old rules. The only guy that you can be confident about dominating any era is probably Arrdyvas Sabonis.
    And it’s up to his coach to scheme against that. You act like the centre’s today aren’t vulnerable to the same switches. How may Cs can legit go out in the perimeter and defend guards? Not many.

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    Anyways the Cavs have extended an offer the Allen officially making him an RFA. Makes it seem like they will match any offer for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    And it’s up to his coach to scheme against that.
    All the schemes against illegal defence make post play less effective. I'll give you one example. In the 90s, you couldn't double or rotate to help until Shaq got the ball. You could have Mutombo on the corner and they would have had to be glued on him. Nowadays, if Shaq got position, you'll instantly see someone rotate off the weakside and players angling themselves to play for the kick out before he even got the ball. This makes entry passes and post play more difficult. So now even if you get the ball on the inside, Shaq can't do his signature drop step move. He has less options because the weakside defender has already rotated. He can't drop his shoulder anymore because that's an offensive foul. So to counter this, coaches have bigs catching the ball further from the basket to punish an early rotation or they just completely overload the weakside. The former would limit Shaq's effectiveness and the latter would make for a very slow offence. This doesn't even get into the other rules that have been added over the years.

    Shaq's advantage back then was that he could dominate his matchup before the help came. But if he couldn't, he struggled. So him dominating a matchup with early help in the modern era isn't exactly an easy bucket even if you think no one has the physicals to match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS34VWiBD0I. also idk why you think Gasol would struggle. Gasol can replicate that easily.

    The Suns did it too. Erik Spoelstra, then a Miami Heat assistant coach, remembers being struck by Phoenix’s and San Antonio’s switching in the 2006 playoffs; the Spurs would go as far as putting Tony Parker (6-foot-2) onto Dirk Nowitzki (7 feet). The Heat staff anticipated both teams would switch positions 1 through 4 when they met in that year’s Finals. D’Antoni, however, was the only one that they feared would go as far as switching a non-center onto Miami’s goliaths, Shaquille O’Neal and Mourning.

    “You had to be ready for anything and everything with the Suns,” Spoelstra, the Heat’s head coach for the past 10 years, said in an email. “The thought of preparing for the Suns was somewhat unnerving simply from the standpoint that you didn’t really know what to expect, and you knew it would be a clash of two totally different playing styles.”
    Here's a legit NBA coach talking about needing to plan for small ball. It's not as simple as Shaq too big, bbq chicken. Or else Spo would have said **** yeah, small ball ez, D'Antoni big dumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    You act like the centre’s today aren’t vulnerable to the same switches. How may Cs can legit go out in the perimeter and defend guards? Not many.
    That's exactly my point. The game is different. There's no guarantee that players from the past will be as dominant. I'm not saying they're going to be trash either. Shaq will still get his. There's also no guarantee that some modern NBA players wouldn't be able to keep up with the past rule sets. Defensive decision making was pretty much brain dead back then. Look at how dominant Gasol and Gobert are with no defensive 3 seconds in FIBA. With hand checking and bodychecking, my god, they don't even have to think. Too many people look at the past with rose tinted glasses. It wasn't all that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA

    Even **** like this man. How do people watch this and say wow 2000s amazing defence. If they didn't shut down the initial action, it was over. So much ball watching and flat footed defence. Nurse would have an aneurysm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5UyyHG-PU
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecart View Post
    All the schemes against illegal defence make post play less effective. I'll give you one example. In the 90s, you couldn't double or rotate to help until Shaq got the ball. You could have Mutombo on the corner and they would have had to be glued on him. Nowadays, if Shaq got position, you'll instantly see someone rotate off the weakside and players angling themselves to play for the kick out before he even got the ball. This makes entry passes and post play more difficult. So now even if you get the ball on the inside, Shaq can't do his signature drop step move. He has less options because the weakside defender has already rotated. He can't drop his shoulder anymore because that's an offensive foul. So to counter this, coaches have bigs catching the ball further from the basket to punish an early rotation or they just completely overload the weakside. The former would limit Shaq's effectiveness and the latter would make for a very slow offence. This doesn't even get into the other rules that have been added over the years.

    Shaq's advantage back then was that he could dominate his matchup before the help came. But if he couldn't, he struggled. So him dominating a matchup with early help in the modern era isn't exactly an easy bucket even if you think no one has the physicals to match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS34VWiBD0I. also idk why you think Gasol would struggle. Gasol can replicate that easily.



    Here's a legit NBA coach talking about needing to plan for small ball. It's not as simple as Shaq too big, bbq chicken. Or else Spo would have said **** yeah, small ball ez, D'Antoni big dumb.



    That's exactly my point. The game is different. There's no guarantee that players from the past will be as dominant. I'm not saying they're going to be trash either. Shaq will still get his. There's also no guarantee that some modern NBA players wouldn't be able to keep up with the past rule sets. Defensive decision making was pretty much brain dead back then. Look at how dominant Gasol and Gobert are with no defensive 3 seconds in FIBA. With hand checking and bodychecking, my god, they don't even have to think. Too many people look at the past with rose tinted glasses. It wasn't all that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA

    Even **** like this man. How do people watch this and say wow 2000s amazing defence. If they didn't shut down the initial action, it was over. So much ball watching and flat footed defence. Nurse would have an aneurysm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5UyyHG-PU
    could it be that teams went small due to the lack of really great bigs? compared to yesteryear we havent had that many great C's in the last 10 years or so. Also could we see the return of the big man because less and less teams are going small? For the first time since Shaq a C won the MVP (Jokic).

    I personally think the small ball experiment failed. It became really popular when the Warriors did it, but they still had guys like Bogut and then later Mcgee they didnt go full small ball full time like other teams that famously went small like the Rockets and Celtics and neither were very successful with it.

    Its not like these great C's of the past lacked ball iq. If they were coming up out of college and in to the pros they would be developed to the way the game is played now and would naturally adjust. I really doubt that guys like Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, D Rob, Shaq etc would struggle in todays game. Its not rocket science man. They would figure it out and also whos to say they wouldn't change the league? Shaq was so dominant that they made rules to try and make him less dominant. They only do that with players that impact the game so much that it calls for a change. Theres only less then a hand full of players that impacted the game to that degree, and Shaq we certainly one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    could it be that teams went small due to the lack of really great bigs? compared to yesteryear we havent had that many great C's in the last 10 years or so. Also could we see the return of the big man because less and less teams are going small? For the first time since Shaq a C won the MVP (Jokic).
    I'm not gonna get into Xs and Os anymore but just look at the deep post positioning of Shaq from 90s vs mid 2000s. 3 second defensive violation was huge. They didn't even bother to contest deep post positioning back then because bigs were just camping out in the paint. A lot of centers can do work with deep post positioning like that. Push them off the block, your shooting and ball handling needs to be tighter. There are times in those videos where the defence ****s up and a smaller guy is on him and Shaq needed to reset. You know why? Because he was out of range to do his drop step spin move in one dribble and wasn't confident enough in his ball handling to attack the smaller defender.

    Small ball wasn't a result of a lack of really great bigs. That's a common misconception. David Griffin who was the VP of basketball ops of the Suns at the time, said that SSOL Suns were a direct result of Jerry Colangelo being on the rules committee and that they knew years ahead of time of competitive rule changes favouring freedom of movement. So you can see from how even knowing that these rule changes were going to happen, they were instantly favouring smaller lineups. So it has nothing to do with a lack of great bigs.

    When you look back at old clips, guards and wings look way slower than they do now. They couldn't go full speed due to the lack of movement rules at the time and because there was a big camped out 24/7 in the paint. When the NBA opened the game up, gave players more freedom and added more spacing, it favoured a more dynamic playstyle. So teams started favouring movement and spacing, so ball handling and shooting were prioritized. More and more strategies came out to pull the big out of the paint, to create more spacing and to pull the rim protector away. Eventually teams realized you don't even need a big. This is super simplistic and it doesn't even get into the analytics (people know about 3s >2s, but how about play types affecting the type of rebounds you get?) and how certain rules affect the dynamic of the game.

    Honestly, if they changed the rules back, I guarantee you'll see so many players in a new light. You act like Shaq was playing against a HOF every game. He couldn't even drop 50 against a washed up 33 year old Rik Smits with multiple knee/foot surgeries and nerve damage in both his feet. His most dominant stretches came against guys like that, Laettner, Divac etc. Old rules, new rules idc, Shaq isn't going to drop 50. Guys like Gasol, Gobert, hell even Draymond aren't going to do worse than the hobbled dutchman. Boban would feast.

    Btw we're seeing the return of the big man because Jokic and Embiid can handle the ball and shoot. It's easier to get them the ball on the perimeter or if they can get to their spots themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    I personally think the small ball experiment failed. It became really popular when the Warriors did it, but they still had guys like Bogut and then later Mcgee they didnt go full small ball full time like other teams that famously went small like the Rockets and Celtics and neither were very successful with it.
    Small ball isn't new. MJ's Bulls used it all the time against all these great centers. Two famous instances of this were against Shaq. Once when he was in Orlando and held him to 0 points for an entire half + OT. Another when he was on the Lakers and they came back from a 18 point deficit.
    Small ball has been used successfully and it also hasn't. It's a strategy like any other. Lebron's MIA teams were also considered small ball. Hou and Bos just took it to extremes.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Its not like these great C's of the past lacked ball iq. If they were coming up out of college and in to the pros they would be developed to the way the game is played now and would naturally adjust. I really doubt that guys like Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, D Rob, Shaq etc would struggle in todays game. Its not rocket science man. They would figure it out and also whos to say they wouldn't change the league? Shaq was so dominant that they made rules to try and make him less dominant. They only do that with players that impact the game so much that it calls for a change. Theres only less then a hand full of players that impacted the game to that degree, and Shaq we certainly one of them.
    idk why you would assume they would just figure it out. I don't think you realize how braindead defence was back then. It's not just me saying it. Tons of ex-players still involved with coaching will tell you the same thing. Back then all you had to do was stop your man and that was it. If all Jokic had to do was guard deep post action, people might actually think he was good at defence. Modern NBA defences require you to stop a dozen different actions. The bar is so much higher. There's no guarantee that any of these guys would learn and adapt. A great example of this is Shaq's pick and roll knowledge. He got roasted for not understanding it back then by guys like Karl Malone and judging by the way he talks about it on TNT, he still doesn't understand it. Listen to Tim Duncan talk about his coaching experience. He said when he returned from his break, he was struggling to keep up with how basketball is being played. Duncan also admitted he didn't really get it towards the end of his career and Pop bailed him out a lot. Wilt is also such a bad example. He's literally the poster boy for all brawn no brains. That's why Russell had his number every time.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Shaq was so dominant that they made rules to try and make him less dominant. They only do that with players that impact the game so much that it calls for a change. Theres only less then a hand full of players that impacted the game to that degree, and Shaq we certainly one of them.
    Which was the point? They dominated an era where the rules suited them but they might not dominate an era where the rules are against them? People talk up the past so much, I don't think y'all even realize Giannis is literally bigger than Hakeem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecart View Post
    I'm not gonna get into Xs and Os anymore but just look at the deep post positioning of Shaq from 90s vs mid 2000s. 3 second defensive violation was huge. They didn't even bother to contest deep post positioning back then because bigs were just camping out in the paint. A lot of centers can do work with deep post positioning like that. Push them off the block, your shooting and ball handling needs to be tighter. There are times in those videos where the defence ****s up and a smaller guy is on him and Shaq needed to reset. You know why? Because he was out of range to do his drop step spin move in one dribble and wasn't confident enough in his ball handling to attack the smaller defender.

    Small ball wasn't a result of a lack of really great bigs. That's a common misconception. David Griffin who was the VP of basketball ops of the Suns at the time, said that SSOL Suns were a direct result of Jerry Colangelo being on the rules committee and that they knew years ahead of time of competitive rule changes favouring freedom of movement. So you can see from how even knowing that these rule changes were going to happen, they were instantly favouring smaller lineups. So it has nothing to do with a lack of great bigs.

    When you look back at old clips, guards and wings look way slower than they do now. They couldn't go full speed due to the lack of movement rules at the time and because there was a big camped out 24/7 in the paint. When the NBA opened the game up, gave players more freedom and added more spacing, it favoured a more dynamic playstyle. So teams started favouring movement and spacing, so ball handling and shooting were prioritized. More and more strategies came out to pull the big out of the paint, to create more spacing and to pull the rim protector away. Eventually teams realized you don't even need a big. This is super simplistic and it doesn't even get into the analytics (people know about 3s >2s, but how about play types affecting the type of rebounds you get?) and how certain rules affect the dynamic of the game.

    Honestly, if they changed the rules back, I guarantee you'll see so many players in a new light. You act like Shaq was playing against a HOF every game. He couldn't even drop 50 against a washed up 33 year old Rik Smits with multiple knee/foot surgeries and nerve damage in both his feet. His most dominant stretches came against guys like that, Laettner, Divac etc. Old rules, new rules idc, Shaq isn't going to drop 50. Guys like Gasol, Gobert, hell even Draymond aren't going to do worse than the hobbled dutchman. Boban would feast.

    Btw we're seeing the return of the big man because Jokic and Embiid can handle the ball and shoot. It's easier to get them the ball on the perimeter or if they can get to their spots themselves.



    Small ball isn't new. MJ's Bulls used it all the time against all these great centers. Two famous instances of this were against Shaq. Once when he was in Orlando and held him to 0 points for an entire half + OT. Another when he was on the Lakers and they came back from a 18 point deficit.
    Small ball has been used successfully and it also hasn't. It's a strategy like any other. Lebron's MIA teams were also considered small ball. Hou and Bos just took it to extremes.



    idk why you would assume they would just figure it out. I don't think you realize how braindead defence was back then. It's not just me saying it. Tons of ex-players still involved with coaching will tell you the same thing. Back then all you had to do was stop your man and that was it. If all Jokic had to do was guard deep post action, people might actually think he was good at defence. Modern NBA defences require you to stop a dozen different actions. The bar is so much higher. There's no guarantee that any of these guys would learn and adapt. A great example of this is Shaq's pick and roll knowledge. He got roasted for not understanding it back then by guys like Karl Malone and judging by the way he talks about it on TNT, he still doesn't understand it. Listen to Tim Duncan talk about his coaching experience. He said when he returned from his break, he was struggling to keep up with how basketball is being played. Duncan also admitted he didn't really get it towards the end of his career and Pop bailed him out a lot. Wilt is also such a bad example. He's literally the poster boy for all brawn no brains. That's why Russell had his number every time.



    Which was the point? They dominated an era where the rules suited them but they might not dominate an era where the rules are against them? People talk up the past so much, I don't think y'all even realize Giannis is literally bigger than Hakeem.
    Ok so Jordan was great because defence was brain dead back then? And in today’s complex defensive schemes they would have a better shot at stopping him? I don’t think so.

    This conversation started with giannis being compared to Shaq. So if Giannis is the closest thing we have to Shaq and he is successful what makes you think Shaq wouldn’t be? The Bucks are not a small team, infact between Lopez, Giannis, and Portis they are pretty massive. I don’t think this small ball thing is as big a deal as you make it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Ok so Jordan was great because defence was brain dead back then?
    Jordan wasn't a big. The older rules were disadvantageous toward him. Also defense hasn't really changed for guards as much as it has for bigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    And in today’s complex defensive schemes they would have a better shot at stopping him? I don’t think so.
    No one said anything about stopping him. That's your own straw man. The rule changes benefited guards and wings and disadvantaged bigs, idk what your point is by bringing up Jordan. But since you brought it up, complex defensive schemes today would have a way better shot of slowing him down than leaving Hornachek on an island with Jordan and praying to Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    This conversation started with giannis being compared to Shaq. So if Giannis is the closest thing we have to Shaq and he is successful what makes you think Shaq wouldn’t be?
    I already talked about this. Giannis has way better ball handling and can get to his spots. It gives him more counters. Shaq needed an entry pass after getting deep post positioning which is harder to do in the modern era. He needed to reset even with a smaller guy on him if he wasn't within a one dribble drop step spin range. If Giannis caught it further he can literally just face you up and line drive. It doesn't matter how dominant you are with the ball, if you can't actually get the ball. Way easier for David Robinson to adapt and dominate. Playstyle and skillset favors modern game and ruleset more.

    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    The Bucks are not a small team, infact between Lopez, Giannis, and Portis they are pretty massive. I don’t think this small ball thing is as big a deal as you make it to be.
    I never made any arguments about "small ball". That's an argument you're having with yourself. The only time I referred to it specifically was just a quote from Spo, to point out it isn't as simplistic as you're making it out to be. And implicitly to demonstrate how a poor pick and roll defender like Shaq could get torn apart in the modern era. Giannis is an elite pick and roll defender.

    The rule changes were a big deal. We literally saw Duncan go from operating back to the basket in the low post to favoring facing up in the high post. We saw Shaq go from camping out in the paint to relying more on give and go action. It's fine if you don't see it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecart View Post
    Jordan wasn't a big. The older rules were disadvantageous toward him. Also defense hasn't really changed for guards as much as it has for bigs.



    No one said anything about stopping him. That's your own straw man. The rule changes benefited guards and wings and disadvantaged bigs, idk what your point is by bringing up Jordan. But since you brought it up, complex defensive schemes today would have a way better shot of slowing him down than leaving Hornachek on an island with Jordan and praying to Jesus.



    I already talked about this. Giannis has way better ball handling and can get to his spots. It gives him more counters. Shaq needed an entry pass after getting deep post positioning which is harder to do in the modern era. He needed to reset even with a smaller guy on him if he wasn't within a one dribble drop step spin range. If Giannis caught it further he can literally just face you up and line drive. It doesn't matter how dominant you are with the ball, if you can't actually get the ball. Way easier for David Robinson to adapt and dominate. Playstyle and skillset favors modern game and ruleset more.



    I never made any arguments about "small ball". That's an argument you're having with yourself. The only time I referred to it specifically was just a quote from Spo, to point out it isn't as simplistic as you're making it out to be. And implicitly to demonstrate how a poor pick and roll defender like Shaq could get torn apart in the modern era. Giannis is an elite pick and roll defender.

    The rule changes were a big deal. We literally saw Duncan go from operating back to the basket in the low post to favoring facing up in the high post. We saw Shaq go from camping out in the paint to relying more on give and go action. It's fine if you don't see it that way.
    It’s not an argument at all. You’re trying convince me that one of the most dominant players ever wouldn’t be nearly as good in this era and I just can’t imagine it. Shaq was a beast I dunno how it would be any different in this soft *** era

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    Shaq couldn't play the same way he did in LA in this era. But regardless of that, if he played now, he'd probably still be like a 15x All star and all NBA.

    Pair him with a top 3 wing in today's era and a great HC and he's still probably winning a ton of titles.

    I don't think he'd be looked at too differently.

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    A skilled big that can attract doubles is massive. Gobert isn't even skilled but his presence alone messed/exploited the usa on offense and defense. Even a mediocre big like Balvin with size gave Canada fits.

    KD and lillard played bad. So relying on iso's scorers getting hot is hit or miss in fiba and even more dangeroud if its a one and done game.

    Roster construction and chemistry and adapting to the international game just as important as talent. We have enough talent to medal just need the other three facets. Do we have a skilled big that can exploit mismatches though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    It’s not an argument at all. You’re trying convince me that one of the most dominant players ever wouldn’t be nearly as good in this era and I just can’t imagine it. Shaq was a beast I dunno how it would be any different in this soft *** era
    lol because the rules are literally different. Some players just have a skill-set that fits better with certain rules. You think it is a coincidence that Shaq changed up his playstyle when new rules came out? It makes sense to you that you have this dominant low post scorer, but they're running more pick and roll action for him when he is older and slower? Really? I don't think you realize how different their games would be with different rules. Just look at FIBA rn. You got the best players in the NBA who can fly by Fournier in the NBA but they can't do it as much in FIBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heediot View Post
    A skilled big that can attract doubles is massive. Gobert isn't even skilled but his presence alone messed/exploited the usa on offense and defense. Even a mediocre big like Balvin with size gave Canada fits.

    KD and lillard played bad. So relying on iso's scorers getting hot is hit or miss in fiba and even more dangeroud if its a one and done game.

    Roster construction and chemistry and adapting to the international game just as important as talent. We have enough talent to medal just need the other three facets. Do we have a skilled big that can exploit mismatches though?
    FIBA rules negate a lot of NBA skillsets. FIBA is like 00s basketball but with full zone. Even in NBA it is only hybrid zone because of 3 second defensive. They also have weird rules that NA NBA players won't be used to. Like most of what Harden does he can't do in FIBA lmfao. That shimmy that they like to do so much in triple threat. Nope. Banned. That's like Tatum's entire bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ View Post
    Shaq couldn't play the same way he did in LA in this era. But regardless of that, if he played now, he'd probably still be like a 15x All star and all NBA.

    Pair him with a top 3 wing in today's era and a great HC and he's still probably winning a ton of titles.

    I don't think he'd be looked at too differently.
    He would have to adapt and be more dynamic. He literally couldn't do the **** he did in the 90s/00s after they changed the rules. So idk why people are acting like he's just going to sit in the paint in 2021 and roll people over. He couldn't even do that in his prime when he wasn't in the restricted area.

    People also have faulty *** memories. Even in Orlando Shaq wasn't that mobile. Robinson got so many easy buckets against him just running the floor.
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    I would probably still bet he adapts. If Shaq grew up in this era, his style of play since his AAU days would would be completely different. I would probably bet alhe still be a monster stat guy offensively 25 and 15), though he would be more situational if his coaches play defensive matchups and take him out. Still a HOF, but not a top 10 player all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ View Post
    I would probably still bet he adapts. If Shaq grew up in this era, his style of play since his AAU days would would be completely different. I would probably bet alhe still be a monster stat guy offensively 25 and 15), though he would be more situational if his coaches play defensive matchups and take him out. Still a HOF, but not a top 10 player all time.
    Yes. You'll see tighter ball handling and way more playmaking from him. He'll never develop a jumper since he has always had mobility issues with his hand/wrists. He would also be an injury risk. Significantly more mileage and pounding in today's pace and space games. I wonder what his conditioning would be like since even in Orlando it wasn't great.

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