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  1. #7951
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/ins...ineup-rankings

    ESPN has us as the fifth best offense in baseball behind only the Padres, Cardinals, Braves and Astros

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    Yeah Media seems pretty high on the team since adding some lefties. Should be an interesting season.

  2. #7952
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/ins...ineup-rankings

    ESPN has us as the fifth best offense in baseball behind only the Padres, Cardinals, Braves and Astros

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    Interesting read! Good to see the Jays getting love from ESPN, with a decent overview of their line-up. Yankees down to 10, and I was surprised to see the Rays at 12, would've thought they'd be lower, (without really considering their line-up). 6/10 were NL teams so found that interesting and there's some pretty stacked line-ups in the NL. San Diego #1, St.Louis #2, Atlanta #3 all ahead of the Dodgers, (#6), Mets at #8 and Phillies at #9. Thought the Phillies would be higher.

    Spring training just around the corner, Jays pitchers and catchers report Feb. 16, position players Feb. 21.

  3. #7953
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    People actually pay attention to these rankings?

    ESPN 2022 rankings had the Rays #1 and he White Sox #2.

  4. #7954
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanton View Post
    People actually pay attention to these rankings?

    ESPN 2022 rankings had the Rays #1 and he White Sox #2.
    It's a different list than the 2022 one you cited. That was power rankings based on opinions and this list is line up rankings based on park neutral runs.

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  5. #7955
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    It's a different list than the 2022 one you cited. That was power rankings based on opinions and this list is line up rankings based on park neutral runs.

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    fair enough , I saw you mentioned offensive rankings so thought it was similar. They are fun reads that's about it. What was last years list?

  6. #7956
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    Unless they define how they come up with these rankings to me they are essentially the same

    lineup rankings = power rankings


    and checking the 2022 power rankings they were way off on many teams, they had us 2nd
    Last edited by hanton; 01-28-2023 at 09:19 PM.

  7. #7957
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanton View Post
    Unless they define how they come up with these rankings to me they are essentially the same

    lineup rankings = power rankings


    and checking the 2022 power rankings they were way off on many teams, they had us 2nd
    If google it, it'll explain how rankings are calculated, it really has no correlation to offensive rankings. Apples and oranges

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanton View Post
    Unless they define how they come up with these rankings to me they are essentially the same

    lineup rankings = power rankings


    and checking the 2022 power rankings they were way off on many teams, they had us 2nd
    So you think only a teams lineup contributes to wins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_noodles View Post
    So you think only a teams lineup contributes to wins?
    I'm not saying anything about the specific rankings other than if you look back at previous ones they are off and sometimes way off

    I had to read a bit more on them;

    The power rankings are just writers votes with input from from vaious "experts" - what they use as a basis for how they vote isn't mentioned.

    The lineup rankings article that powers posted was a little different in that they uses certain offensevie stats to come up with a ranking, looks a little complicated to me and not worth looking at it further.

  10. #7960
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    ...when I'm left watching Vlady workout videos in the dr

    pitchers and catchers report on Feb 16, full squad on Feb 21, first game Feb 25th at the Pirates

  11. #7961
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    We sign Chad Green.

  12. #7962
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    Chad Green coming to Toronto. One of the reasons NY got off to such a hot start was that nasty bullpen. He was a big part of it before Tommy John. Hopefully he recovers well. Only 2.25 million this year. Jays have club option to keep him for 3 years, 27 million after this season

  13. #7963
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps18-19 Champ View Post
    We sign Chad Green.
    I like how they did the contract a lot too. Low risk, high reward IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebloemer View Post
    Chad Green coming to Toronto. One of the reasons NY got off to such a hot start was that nasty bullpen. He was a big part of it before Tommy John. Hopefully he recovers well. Only 2.25 million this year. Jays have club option to keep him for 3 years, 27 million after this season
    What a wild ****ing contract lol. Thatís some OOTP **** I like it.

  15. #7965
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    What a wild ****ing contract lol. Thatís some OOTP **** I like it.
    The other side I didnít mention is that if the Jays decline to team option, Green gets a 1 year, 6 million dollar player option. So if there are issues in recovery or performance, he has some financial security beyond this season. Not a huge risk IMO.

    Funky contract. Could become:

    4 years around 30 million (Jays pick up team option)
    1 year, 2.25 million (both parties decline options)
    2 years 8.5 million (Jays decline team option, but Green picks up player option).
    Last edited by pebloemer; 01-31-2023 at 05:03 PM.

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