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  1. #46
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    A bit of an accounting move with Flowers. From reading what Bowman said, he gets a $6 million total still but $2 million of it is the buyout and $4 million is his actual salary for the 2020 season. From an accounting standpoint, it sounds like the $2 million buyout actually counts against the Braves' 2019 payroll rather than the 2020 payroll, which explains how the Braves actually save $2 million in MLB's eyes (and maybe in Liberty's eyes as well?).

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    Markakis back to the Braves. Same deal as Flowers: $2 million buyout plus a $4 million salary for 2020 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hector olivera? View Post
    Markakis back to the Braves. Same deal as Flowers: $2 million buyout plus a $4 million salary for 2020 season.
    Well..... waiting to see what they do with JT now?

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    4 million is ok for Markakis but I hope they move him to a platoon him. I can’t wait for Waters to be ready.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    Well..... waiting to see what they do with JT now?
    Declined him. I assume they asked around and no one wanted to deal for him at that price tag.

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    Most likely the reason people didn't want him

    https://twitter.com/mike_petriello/s...407292416?s=20

    His velocity has dropped every year.

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    Donaldson was extended a QO
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    Jim Bowden listed his top 35 free agents and list a few as best fits with the Braves and guess their contracts.

    4. Madison Bumgarner, LHP
    Best fits: Braves, Phillies, Nationals, Astros, Giants

    Contract prediction
    Years: Four
    AAV: $21 million
    Total: $84 million

    8. Josh Donaldson, 3B
    Best fits: Braves, Nationals, Rangers

    Contract prediction
    Years: Three
    AAV: $25 million
    Total: $75 million

    9. Nicholas Castellanos, OF
    Best fits: Braves, Cubs, Marlins, Blue Jays, Mariners, Padres, Giants, Angels

    Contract prediction
    Years: Four
    AAV: $16 million
    Total: $64 million

    13. Dallas Keuchel, LHP
    Best fits: Braves, Phillies, Brewers, Rangers, Twins, Pirates, Angels

    Contract prediction
    Years: Three
    AAV: $14 million
    Total: $42 million
    https://theathletic.com/1343614/2019...and-best-fits/
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    i'm torn on Castellanos. He definitely brings power but, if the Braves re-sign Donaldson and then sign Castellanos, what do they do with Riley? are they really going to use him as a spot starter and bench piece or is he going to platoon?

    and I am not sure I want to bring Keuchel back.

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    https://twitter.com/DOBrienATL/statu...157927936?s=20

    #Braves are bringing back Markakis with intention of him platooning in left field, and they discussed that with him before re-signing him, Anthopoulos said. AA mentioned Duvall as platoon option in left with him.
    Markakis hit .298/.371/.446/.816 vs RHP with all 9 of his HRs coming off them.
    Duvall hit .333/.386/.744/1.130 vs LHP in limited ABs
    Last edited by Wrench; 11-04-2019 at 06:30 PM.

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    Cole Hamels was not offered a QO. I’m definitely interested in him as a replacement for Teheran.

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    I think Hamels still has enough left to be a quality starter. Plus, I would love to have him around Fried. He fits AA’s recent model of short term deals. In the event age catches up and he deals with some injuries (like last year) we’ll have our bounty of young pitching ready to fill in. Wright is almost ready and Anderson should be ready this year as well. Seems like a no brainer move IMO.


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    If the Braves think Wright and Anderson are ready to step in at some point this year and Soroka is ready to be a number one starter, then Hamels makes a lot of sense! However if they don’t want to put that pressure on Soroka and think Wright and or Anderson need more seasoning, they have a hell of a 3 to choose from in FA! Cole and Stras ( he opted out) will be very expensive! Bum may take a discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    If the Braves think Wright and Anderson are ready to step in at some point this year and Soroka is ready to be a number one starter, then Hamels makes a lot of sense! However if they don’t want to put that pressure on Soroka and think Wright and or Anderson need more seasoning, they have a hell of a 3 to choose from in FA! Cole and Stras ( he opted out) will be very expensive! Bum may take a discount.
    DOB speculated in his most recent article that the Braves may not have to over pay for Bumgarner. Below is what he said about Bumgarner and Wheeler:

    The Braves discussed trading for Madison Bumgarner before the San Francisco Giants decided to keep him at the trade deadline last summer, and now that the rural North Carolina native is a free agent, it seems a natural fit for the Braves, who might not even have to overpay for the lefty or go beyond the two- or three-year length they prefer. Bumgarner, who turned 30 in August, had a career-high but still-solid 3.90 ERA in 2019, including 3.57 in his final 18 starts with 110 strikeouts in 111 innings. He has been one of the best postseason pitchers of his generation, going 8-3 with a 2.11 ERA in 16 games (14 starts) including 4-0 with a microscopic 0.25 ERA in five World Series games (four starts).

    Another free-agent possibility is Zach Wheeler, 29, born near SunTrust Park and raised in the Atlanta area. Wheeler was 11-8 with a 3.96 ERA in 31 starts for the New York Mets in 2019 and had career-highs of 195 1/3 innings and 195 strikeouts, after posting a 3.31 ERA in 29 starts in 2018. But keep in mind the Braves’ current aversion to signing pitchers (or other players) to long-term free-agent contracts. They are determined to not have “dead money” on the payroll in the future like they had in the past with some ill-conceived contracts they handed out or acquired through trades.

    “Generally speaking, the free-agent market is not how you want to build a roster,” Anthopoulos said the day after the Braves were eliminated from the playoffs. “Likely, to be the winning bid, you’re paying a few more million per year or (go) a year or two more than you want.”
    https://theathletic.com/1347512/2019...tract-offense/
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    I will agree it’s not the ideal way to build a team. However I think the Braves May be an ace and a bat away from being a perineal contender for the near future. So this is the time period I’d think about spending the Money.

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    Ken Rosenthal wrote an interesting article this morning. He was speculating on how the Red Sox can stay under the luxury tax without dealing Betts.

    So, the Sox are in a pickle. Trading Betts would be not only unpopular but also counter-productive for a team that intends to rebound in 2020. Trading Martinez, meanwhile, would be difficult for the reasons that persuaded him not to opt out — a market that is limited to AL clubs, and the fact he is owed $62.5 million over three years entering his age-32 season.

    A better path might be to move left-hander David Price, who is owed $96 million over the next three years, or righty Nathan Eovaldi, who is owed $51 million over the next three. Impossible, you say? Well, what if the Red Sox included cash in a trade and also attached left fielder Andrew Benintendi, who remains cost-effective as he enters his first year of arbitration?
    Would the Braves be willing to trade for Price if it meant they could acquire Benintendi and cash? Benintendi is coming off a down year but he's only 25 and 1 year removed from posting an .830 OPS and 3.9 WAR. Taking that much money off the Red Sox hands will greatly reduce the price tag. The Braves could then look to flip one of Pache or Waters for a true front line starter. Maybe the Mets consider trading Thor again? Or maybe Blake Snell becomes available.

    He also speculated on the Cubs direction:

    If the Cubs moved Contreras — ideally, for a starting pitcher with comparable control — they could perhaps sign a free agent to pair with Victor Caratini. If they traded Contreras and Bryant, they would free up approximately $23 million in projected salaries in arbitration, enough to sign a high-end starting pitcher.
    If Contreras is made available he should be right at the top of our wish list. We have the controlled pitching the Cubs would be looking for.

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