It’s time to move on from Carr

[Proximo]

Nobody cares for your concern

If Gruden was so concerned Carr wasn't his type of QB, he would have been long gone. Yet here we are, year 3 under Gruden.

You can continue to push whatever clueless narrative you have next. Nothing will change the fact that Carr is Grudens QB

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[FarOutIos]

I agree entirely. Gannon’s success was in large part because of Gruden and much to Al Davis’s chagrin Gannon’s forgettable Super Bowl performance was also in large part because of Gruden.

But...it takes a certain type of player to succeed as a QB under Gruden and having followed Jon’s career in the NFL there seems to be certain character and athletic traits that run consistent with that success.

Those traits often are contrary to what many emphasize in what an NFL QB should be.

Gannon possessed them all. Carr lacks a few of them hence my concern.

I am laying the destroying legacies part a bit too thick. I am sorry you’re a long time fan and bleed silver & black as much as the rest of us.

My concern should not be confused with hatred.

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Fair enough. My only caveat is that we can’t really judge carr’s success until provided a similarly talented team around him. That’s why I’ve been saying this year he has no excuses. I also think gruden hasn’t worked with enough QBs to really pigeonhole him into a typecast.

And I really wanted us to trade up for Tua. Wouldn’t mind trading for Rogers if we think he’s got 4 more years in him.

[mberr]

This may affect his you feel about Carr for better or for worse, not sure

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8R17ja7nEs

[FarOutIos]

This may affect his you feel about Carr for better or for worse, not sure

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8R17ja7nEs

O. M. G. 😂

Oddly enough, after watching hard knocks I actually found myself annoyed by carrs personality. This doesn’t help.

[Inspector]

This may affect his you feel about Carr for better or for worse, not sure

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8R17ja7nEs

Wasn’t this years ago and a joke?

He was pretty much laughing at himself by doing that.

Have you seen him in clips with his brothers, that’s clearly his real personality, you can’t fake it around brothers they will call it out real fast.

[Inspector]

The Raiders always has talent in those days. Gruden & Gannon changed the culture and won football games.

Great QB’s elevate the entire team. Gannon was a great one as a Raider.

The need to discredit his achievements to defend Carr is unbecoming. You people are ready to burn the entire organization to the ground in an attempt to deflect accountability and criticism from your boy.

I have seen the legacy of HOF players desecrated on this thread when those examples may contradict the Derek Carr narrative.

I find it very disturbing to see so called “fans” toss Raider legends under the bus to justify the failings of a particular player. I am bewildered by it...


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Who discredited Gannon? Even great QBs need a very good team around them to achieve their peak, is what I’m seeing people write. Carr needs a very good team around, then at age 29 (31/3/2020) not 34 we might find out how good he can eventually become. Doesn’t seem unreasonable.

[Proximo]

Who discredited Gannon? Even great QBs need a very good team around them to achieve their peak, is what I’m seeing people write. Carr needs a very good team around, then at age 29 (31/3/2020) not 34 we might find out how good he can eventually become. Doesn’t seem unreasonable.

How much rope do you give a QB? It’s tough to build perfect teams and as you build these teams you have to pay guys. Teams that show too much patience may lose their window.

It’s Carr’s job to keep or lose this year.


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[Stump jumper]

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Careful Prox. Switch played high school football and is therefore a genius.

[Proximo]

Dupe

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[bulldog2683]

How much rope do you give a QB? It’s tough to build perfect teams and as you build these teams you have to pay guys. Teams that show too much patience may lose their window.

It’s Carr’s job to keep or lose this year.


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Carr is definitely on a very short leash.

[GREATNESS ONE]

This thread man..

[Switch]

Careful Prox. Switch played high school football and is therefore a genius.

Says the clueless dumbass who wanted to trade Carr for a sack of potatoes. You insult the guy more than most. Keep it up. You get more clueless with each post.

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I'm here to keep you in check with whatever false narrative you have next. You literally get shut down with each post. Tell me again how McGloin is a prototypical QB for Gruden

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I'm here to keep you in check with whatever false narrative you have next. You literally get shut down with each post. Tell me again how McGloin is a prototypical QB for Gruden

McGloin isn’t a Gruden type QB. He isn’t even an NFL QB. In the beginning some thought he might have the grit and determination to overcome his physical shortcomings and succeed. He did not, and everyone recognizes this. No one is championing his cause. I think constantly bringing the McGloin thing up is backfiring on you. You’re the one who is looking clueless. I’m not trying to be a dick, just want to help a brother out. It’s time to revamp your shtick. 👍

[Switch]

McGloin isn’t a Gruden type QB. He isn’t even an NFL QB. In the beginning some thought he might have the grit and determination to overcome his physical shortcomings and succeed. He did not, and everyone recognizes this. No one is championing his cause. I think constantly bringing the McGloin thing up is backfiring on you. You’re the one who is looking clueless. I’m not trying to be a dick, just want to help a brother out. It’s time to revamp your shtick. 👍

Not at all. Just pointing out how clueless Prox really is. He literally said McGloin is exactly the kind of QB that would succeed under Gruden. Yes the same McGloin that was benched in the XFL. He pushed so many false narratives about Carr. Even went on an emotional rant. Just reread his posts in this thread