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  1. #5671
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stump jumper View Post
    Unfortunately, there is a faction that will make excuses for him no matter what.
    Who is this faction? People challenging the haters I don't see being anything other than objective. Not one person has called Carr anything other than a Good ave QB since 2016 MVP race season. When does calling a player okay constitute making excuses?

    BTW describing factual poor overall team play isn't excusing the teams QB its explaining that the tea m has much bigger problems than 1 player. STOP FOLLOWING THE BALL AROUND THE SCREEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Anyone miss the Aaron Brooks era?


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    Ahhhhh.......no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Anyone miss the Aaron Brooks era?


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    Frankly, the whole team was terrible.....and for a while. Glad that's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector View Post
    Who is this faction? People challenging the haters I don't see being anything other than objective. Not one person has called Carr anything other than a Good ave QB since 2016 MVP race season. When does calling a player okay constitute making excuses?

    BTW describing factual poor overall team play isn't excusing the teams QB its explaining that the tea m has much bigger problems than 1 player. STOP FOLLOWING THE BALL AROUND THE SCREEN
    New offensive coordinator, new coach, bad online, bad defense, bad wr's, etc. Pay attention to what you post....faction president

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbacknick View Post
    ly

    Frankly, the whole team was terrible.....and for a while. Glad that's over.
    Why the hell did we suffer through that? Lmfao why did I torture myself and watched every game..... man we suffered some dark times, we deserve better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    Why the hell did we suffer through that? Lmfao why did I torture myself and watched every game..... man we suffered some dark times, we deserve better...
    Yeah, I agree. I guess we had faith that the "change" would come at any time. This team is certainly better, so my hope's up. Have faith my brother. We shall overcome. It's the journey that's fun. It has been a long one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREATNESS ONE View Post
    Why the hell did we suffer through that? Lmfao why did I torture myself and watched every game..... man we suffered some dark times, we deserve better...
    Look at the number of coaches and QB's the Raiders went through from 2003-2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbacknick View Post
    Yeah, I agree. I guess we had faith that the "change" would come at any time. This team is certainly better, so mu hope's up. Have faith my brother. We shall overcome. It's the journey that's fun. It has been a long one.
    I agree.

    Way to long of a journey.

    "...prone to stoogery.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog2683 View Post
    Look at the number of coaches and QB's the Raiders went through from 2003-2014.
    That era was a complete ********. It was very difficult to watch Al Davis destroy what he created.


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    Yet we sat through it

    I watched some dog **** football for years.

    I still tend to remain optimistic

    11-5 this year. MVP OROYand DROY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stump jumper View Post
    New offensive coordinator, new coach, bad online, bad defense, bad wr's, etc. Pay attention to what you post....faction president
    Some but not all of many reasons a team can be poor. QB play would need to be assessed in relation to other individual attributes of performance. For example passing accuracy

    Errand boy hater (see you are very low down the hater ranks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog2683 View Post
    Look at the number of coaches and QB's the Raiders went through from 2003-2014.
    Lmfao I rather not reminisce that hell, was already enough having to watch all those games in embarrassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector View Post
    Some but not all of many reasons a team can be poor. QB play would need to be assessed in relation to other individual attributes of performance. For example passing accuracy

    Errand boy hater (see you are very low down the hater ranks).
    And the faction president continues on the DC love boat. Pucker up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stump jumper View Post
    And the faction president continues on the DC love boat. Pucker up
    Where is he wrong though?

    That has always been the point... the team has stunk due to lack of talent, lack of coaching consistency, and wasted drafts.

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