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  1. #7501
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shred003 View Post
    I think the Chiefs nailed this process. You have a good QB? Build around them.

    If they canít get the job done, you draft their replacement and keep winning while the replacement develops.
    The consistent problem is our decades long frustration of drafting defensive players who seriously under perform. We can't seem to draft replacements hoping they develop. Heck we can't even draft average players!

    Nnamdi, Mack and now Crosby are the only above average players we have drafted on the defense in the past 20 years. Mad Maxx played through injuries this year seriously impacting his statistics. I hope he comes back strong next season as he's our only pass rusher.

    We'll see what this draft brings, but it's getting harder and harder to have hope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a60rdie View Post
    The consistent problem is our decades long frustration of drafting defensive players who seriously under perform. We can't seem to draft replacements hoping they develop. Heck we can't even draft average players!

    Nnamdi, Mack and now Crosby are the only above average players we have drafted on the defense in the past 20 years. Mad Maxx played through injuries this year seriously impacting his statistics. I hope he comes back strong next season as he's our only pass rusher.

    We'll see what this draft brings, but it's getting harder and harder to have hope...
    And Maxx was misused. He should be a situational pass rush specialist. Out of necessity he was used as a 3 down DE, but he is a liability against the run and played too many snaps his pass rushing suffered as a result of overuse IMO.

  3. #7503
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Uh not even close. Seattle always had talented players. Including the defense. 7 pro bowlers this year. 3 on defense
    You obviously don't follow the Seahawks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    You obviously don't follow the Seahawks.
    Hahaha. Remember all the Carr Brady comparisons? ďBrady is a SYSTEM quarterback, he wonít win without the Patriot Belichick systemĒ. Riiiight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    You obviously don't follow the Seahawks.
    You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

    Seattle's defense rank since Carr came into the league:

    2020: 15th
    2019: 22nd
    2018: 11th
    2017:14th
    2016: 3rd
    2015: 1st
    2014: 1st

    They've had multiple pro bowlers on the defense over the years. 3 this year. When was the last time we had a pro bowl defender? Mack in 2016?
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

    Seattle's defense rank since Carr came into the league:

    2020: 15th
    2019: 22nd
    2018: 11th
    2017:14th
    2016: 3rd
    2015: 1st
    2014: 1st

    They've had multiple pro bowlers on the defense over the years. 3 this year. When was the last time we had a pro bowl defender? Mack in 2016?
    They have also steadily regressed. They dismantled the legion go boom to pay Russell Wilson. What does any of this have to do with the Raiders defensive situation?

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    For now Carr's contract alone doesn't prevent the Raiders from building a solid defense, or generally building around him. Yet. I don't see the Raiders going after Wilson or any other top flight QB for that reason alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shred003 View Post
    How on earth do you watch this trash franchise without drinking?!
    Trust me when I say that I'm doing the world a favor by not drinking. I come from a long line of hyper-violent drunks. We jokingly call it "Black Label psychopathy." It's the luminosity of violent intent that results when alcohol jettisons the conscience. Seen it often enough in my kin. Figure I'm better off not tempting fate. Not even for a controlled burn.

    Besides, that would be like digging your own grave twice. Being a Raider fan in the current era is enough of a bottomless pit all by itself.

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    I think at this point, Writers, Players, Agents will throw the Raiders in on any QB just to get a rise.

    Carr isn't going anywhere... Just the fact.

    Wilson, I think the best trade is still the Giants, He is a NYC dude and a trade/swap for D Jones might make sense for both sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    They have also steadily regressed. They dismantled the legion go boom to pay Russell Wilson. What does any of this have to do with the Raiders defensive situation?
    You tell me. You compared them to the Raiders. Who have had bottom 5 defense the last couple of years
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sicknick12 View Post
    I think at this point, Writers, Players, Agents will throw the Raiders in on any QB just to get a rise.

    Carr isn't going anywhere... Just the fact.

    Wilson, I think the best trade is still the Giants, He is a NYC dude and a trade/swap for D Jones might make sense for both sides
    It's been a fact for a while now. Including last year when almost everyone on this board was convinced he was getting traded
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

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    Deshaun Watson: "I want to be traded bc I don't have a good team anymore."

    Russell Wilson: "I want to be traded bc I don't have a good team anymore."

    Derek Carr: "I love the Raiders, I want to play here all my career, despite always bad D."

    Guess which one is most hated?


    Something I got from twitter. Could not be more true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Deshaun Watson: "I want to be traded bc I don't have a good team anymore."

    Russell Wilson: "I want to be traded bc I don't have a good team anymore."

    Derek Carr: "I love the Raiders, I want to play here all my career, despite always bad D."

    Guess which one is most hated?


    Something I got from twitter. Could not be more true.
    thatís not a good thing.
    The one most disliked is the one who seems content on losing. Where is his competitive spirit? Itís probably why you see him giggling on the sidelines when the Raiders are losing.
    Last edited by maledicent; 02-26-2021 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maledicent View Post
    Iím thatís not a good thing.
    The one most disliked is the one who seems content on losing. Where is his competitive spirit? Itís probably why you see him giggling on the sidelines when the Raiders are losing.
    Seems. Lol

    He can't giggle now. What else can't he do?
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Seems. Lol

    He can't giggle now. What else can't he do?
    Win.


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