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  1. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydubb View Post
    Not far off your logic.. Your logic is that just because a man is an NFL player (more specifically a Patriots player) and has a lot of money he's innocent and it's a money grab by the accuser
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're intentionally strawmanning here rather than being incapable of understanding simple concepts.

    There is no evidence of wrongdoing presented so far in either "harassment" case. Therefore Brown is innocent in both cases, unless you just really dislike brown people or are a fascist. Even if he did rape the first woman, if there is no evidence, he is still innocent.

    Brown not paying a chef or throwing something out a window or whatever else is irrelevant to the topic. Might as well shoot him because he had a speeding ticket, right? Maybe Kaep should start protesting PSD.




    In one case so far we have evidence of a consensual relationship that eventually ended because Brown didn't give her enough money. A two-years-later claim isn't evidence. Texts of Jerry Springer level babymomma catfighting isn't evidence either.

    In another case we have evidence that Brown hired and paid a painter, even though it sounds like she never finished the mural she was hired to do. Even if everything did happen 100% as she described, no crime occurred. Brown can be naked in his bedroom, and if he's getting a mural painted in his bedroom, let's be honest, it probably would feature a nude Brown. I'd be shocked if he didn't have nude statues of himself in his bedroom or house. Gotta feature the big chest.


    Similar to how "instagram models" usually are actually prostitutes, it seems fairly obvious that Brown "hires" attractive-but-not-really-good-at-their-jobs women as a "legal" method of prostitution. When this becomes a one-time thing instead of a "sugar baby" situation, some have decided to fight back with unfounded accusations, only in civil cases, to get more money. The idea is to quietly settle before going public (extortion) but lately more people have fought back against this kind of thing. I'm sure Brown hasn't stopped hiring women this, so there will be cases recent enough to file criminal complaints if any actual harassment, assault or rape happened. They won't, because doing things like taking $2,000 for a mural they didn't paint in exchange for doing whatever exhibitionist thing Brown was into probably is prostitution under the law.

    Heck, the latest mural person even said something to the effect of she handled it well and ignored him because this sort of thing happens all the time. Because people don't pay someone $2,000 for a mural if they aren't getting something else out of the deal. And any trained painter has painted many nudes.

    And why would the Patriots care about any of this? Kraft was caught doing the same thing with hiring "massage" women for handies.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're intentionally strawmanning here rather than being incapable of understanding simple concepts.

    There is no evidence of wrongdoing presented so far in either "harassment" case. Therefore Brown is innocent in both cases, unless you just really dislike brown people or are a fascist. Even if he did rape the first woman, if there is no evidence, he is still innocent.

    Brown not paying a chef or throwing something out a window or whatever else is irrelevant to the topic. Might as well shoot him because he had a speeding ticket, right? Maybe Kaep should start protesting PSD.




    In one case so far we have evidence of a consensual relationship that eventually ended because Brown didn't give her enough money. A two-years-later claim isn't evidence. Texts of Jerry Springer level babymomma catfighting isn't evidence either.

    In another case we have evidence that Brown hired and paid a painter, even though it sounds like she never finished the mural she was hired to do. Even if everything did happen 100% as she described, no crime occurred. Brown can be naked in his bedroom, and if he's getting a mural painted in his bedroom, let's be honest, it probably would feature a nude Brown. I'd be shocked if he didn't have nude statues of himself in his bedroom or house. Gotta feature the big chest.


    Similar to how "instagram models" usually are actually prostitutes, it seems fairly obvious that Brown "hires" attractive-but-not-really-good-at-their-jobs women as a "legal" method of prostitution. When this becomes a one-time thing instead of a "sugar baby" situation, some have decided to fight back with unfounded accusations, only in civil cases, to get more money. The idea is to quietly settle before going public (extortion) but lately more people have fought back against this kind of thing. I'm sure Brown hasn't stopped hiring women this, so there will be cases recent enough to file criminal complaints if any actual harassment, assault or rape happened. They won't, because doing things like taking $2,000 for a mural they didn't paint in exchange for doing whatever exhibitionist thing Brown was into probably is prostitution under the law.

    Heck, the latest mural person even said something to the effect of she handled it well and ignored him because this sort of thing happens all the time. Because people don't pay someone $2,000 for a mural if they aren't getting something else out of the deal. And any trained painter has painted many nudes.

    And why would the Patriots care about any of this? Kraft was caught doing the same thing with hiring "massage" women for handies.
    Similarly..... What evidence is there that the accuser is doing this for a money grab? Exactly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're intentionally strawmanning here rather than being incapable of understanding simple concepts.

    There is no evidence of wrongdoing presented so far in either "harassment" case. Therefore Brown is innocent in both cases, unless you just really dislike brown people or are a fascist. Even if he did rape the first woman, if there is no evidence, he is still innocent.

    Brown not paying a chef or throwing something out a window or whatever else is irrelevant to the topic. Might as well shoot him because he had a speeding ticket, right? Maybe Kaep should start protesting PSD.




    In one case so far we have evidence of a consensual relationship that eventually ended because Brown didn't give her enough money. A two-years-later claim isn't evidence. Texts of Jerry Springer level babymomma catfighting isn't evidence either.

    In another case we have evidence that Brown hired and paid a painter, even though it sounds like she never finished the mural she was hired to do. Even if everything did happen 100% as she described, no crime occurred. Brown can be naked in his bedroom, and if he's getting a mural painted in his bedroom, let's be honest, it probably would feature a nude Brown. I'd be shocked if he didn't have nude statues of himself in his bedroom or house. Gotta feature the big chest.


    Similar to how "instagram models" usually are actually prostitutes, it seems fairly obvious that Brown "hires" attractive-but-not-really-good-at-their-jobs women as a "legal" method of prostitution. When this becomes a one-time thing instead of a "sugar baby" situation, some have decided to fight back with unfounded accusations, only in civil cases, to get more money. The idea is to quietly settle before going public (extortion) but lately more people have fought back against this kind of thing. I'm sure Brown hasn't stopped hiring women this, so there will be cases recent enough to file criminal complaints if any actual harassment, assault or rape happened. They won't, because doing things like taking $2,000 for a mural they didn't paint in exchange for doing whatever exhibitionist thing Brown was into probably is prostitution under the law.

    Heck, the latest mural person even said something to the effect of she handled it well and ignored him because this sort of thing happens all the time. Because people don't pay someone $2,000 for a mural if they aren't getting something else out of the deal. And any trained painter has painted many nudes.

    And why would the Patriots care about any of this? Kraft was caught doing the same thing with hiring "massage" women for handies.
    I agree that Brown, no matter his antics, is innocent until proven guilty. However, you make a lot of assumptions in this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymation View Post
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    The last time the media claimed he abruptly ended a presser, it turned out to be completely fabricated.

    Is this one legit?
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    I appreciate that Bullseyed is anti-fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    I appreciate that Bullseyed is anti-fascism.
    A lot of people go with guilty until proven innocent these days it seems.

    The person they are so convinced is guilty usually happens to fit certain demographics too. Weird.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    Guilty or not with the first accuser may not matter. The moron threatened the painter and was stupid enough to do it via social media. That alone may be enough for the NFL to impose discipline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Pedaso View Post
    Guilty or not with the first accuser may not matter. The moron threatened the painter and was stupid enough to do it via social media. That alone may be enough for the NFL to impose discipline
    Asking a private investigator to look into someone isn't threatening someone.

    Including pictures they post publicly on the internet isn't either, as the PI needs to know what they look like.



    He could have done all that without even informing her. Probably better to know you're getting investigated than to not know.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    Asking a private investigator to look into someone isn't threatening someone.

    Including pictures they post publicly on the internet isn't either, as the PI needs to know what they look like.



    He could have done all that without even informing her. Probably better to know you're getting investigated than to not know.
    Maybe the NFL will see it that way, or maybe not. In any event, there was no reason for Brown to instigate or encourage an investigation, let alone publicize it. Who cares if she is broke or not. Brown is dumber than a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Pedaso View Post
    Maybe the NFL will see it that way, or maybe not. In any event, there was no reason for Brown to instigate or encourage an investigation, let alone publicize it. Who cares if she is broke or not. Brown is dumber than a rock.
    There is no reason for the story to be reported on, or for any of us to have any view or opinion into Brown's private life.

    Also, there is plenty of reason for Brown to defend himself. Hopefully the NFL will require her to turn over her phone and text logs, a la Brady. Banking statements too.
    First 4 years:
    Brown - 54 GP, 27 GS, 261 catches (63.3%) for 3,561 yds (8.6 AVG), 15 TD
    Landry - 64 GP, 57 GS, 400 catches (70.2%) for 4,038 yds (10.1 AVG), 22 TD

    Huh. Wonder why Landry is getting paid so much...

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    He gone.

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    AB was too innocent for the Pats.

    Wonder if he will still stay with Brady until he finds his next victim, errr, team.

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    Philly should sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf and turf View Post
    Philly should sign him.
    Hell no

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