NFC East Regular Season Thread

[mgjohnson7851]

Not a drop? Wut?

I would be shocked if that was marked as a drop in the box score

[mgjohnson7851]

He had two hands on the ball. If he didn’t run too far inside then he wouldn’t have to make it harder on himself to reach back and try to catch it. That’s one of his main issues, tracking deep balls. I thought it was questionable at first too, especially in real time, but after watching it a couple times it looks like a drop to me

I mean I'm not saying Agholor is good lol.

But this is what the NFL stats department says is the standard for charting a drop. "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort."

I just thought of the difference in perceived drops from Eagles fans vs. credited drops because earlier in the game BDawk was calling a pass dropped that absolutely won't be credited even though it hit the receivers hands.

I think the real issue is that the Eagles need a receiver that can make catches by giving an extraordinary effort. All they have right now is players who can make the normal catches. They NEED a guy like Cortland Sutton... You can't have him, but you need one like him lol

[BDawk4Prez]

I would be shocked if that was marked as a drop in the box score

Um, it was lol.

[BDawk4Prez]

I mean I'm not saying Agholor is good lol.

But this is what the NFL stats department says is the standard for charting a drop. "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort."

I just thought of the difference in perceived drops from Eagles fans vs. credited drops because earlier in the game BDawk was calling a pass dropped that absolutely won't be credited even though it hit the receivers hands.

I think the real issue is that the Eagles need a receiver that can make catches by giving an extraordinary effort. All they have right now is players who can make the normal catches. They NEED a guy like Cortland Sutton... You can't have him, but you need one like him lol

I’d give my left nut for a receiver who could make normal catches.

[BDawk4Prez]

I mean I'm not saying Agholor is good lol.

But this is what the NFL stats department says is the standard for charting a drop. "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort."

I just thought of the difference in perceived drops from Eagles fans vs. credited drops because earlier in the game BDawk was calling a pass dropped that absolutely won't be credited even though it hit the receivers hands.

I think the real issue is that the Eagles need a receiver that can make catches by giving an extraordinary effort. All they have right now is players who can make the normal catches. They NEED a guy like Cortland Sutton... You can't have him, but you need one like him lol

That ball was ordinary over the shoulder. I mean, it’s routine. Ags made it look hard.

[jaydubb]

That ball was ordinary over the shoulder. I mean, it’s routine. Ags made it look hard.

This is my thinking too. Agholor made it more difficult on himself by running too far inside, though the wind coulda played a factor as well

[mgjohnson7851]

Um, it was lol.

Got proof of that?

[mgjohnson7851]

That ball was ordinary over the shoulder. I mean, it’s routine. Ags made it look hard.

It was also 30 yards down field with 2 Pat's near him wasn't it?

[CasperX22]

It was also 30 yards down field with 2 Pat's near him wasn't it?

So what your definition of a drop is ball hitting a guy in the chest with nobody around him? End of the day that's a catch Ags or any NFL caliber receiver should make most of the time. Ags should be out of the NFL and badly as he's played this season.

[BDawk4Prez]

It was also 30 yards down field with 2 Pat's near him wasn't it?

Behind him, yes.

[BDawk4Prez]

Got proof of that?

Every article written so far?

[Mamba42]

Without question.

No way you can count that as a drop. It’s a drop when it’s an easy catch but dropped. That would have been an amazing catch by Agholor even if he had taken a better path to the ball

[BDawk4Prez]

No way you can count that as a drop. It’s a drop when it’s an easy catch but dropped. That would have been an amazing catch by Agholor even if he had taken a better path to the ball

Crazy. It’s a routine over the shoulder catch that he makes a terrible route on. I can’t believe people are debating it really. It’s a drop. Crazy talk.

[Mamba42]

Every article written so far?

Here is what the Philadelphia Inquirer says in an article:

There might not be a lot of receivers in the NFL who make a play on the ball that Carson Wentz lofted to Nelson Agholor in the end zone on fourth down late in the fourth quarter, but there are some, and there are plenty who give themselves more of a shot than Agholor did.

Source: http://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagle...-20191118.html

So while some receivers could catch it but most will not. That does not meet the definition of a drop. Also because a ball is catchable doesn’t mean it’s a drop when it’s not caught. It’s only a drop when you can assume it would be caught because it’s open and it is a usual play for the receiver.

[Mamba42]

Crazy. It’s a routine over the shoulder catch that he makes a terrible route on. I can’t believe people are debating it really. It’s a drop. Crazy talk.

See the post I just put above.