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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    I don't know if he was doing something else to get himself kicked out or not, but I've been to games where dudes are yelling obscenities and they don't get escorted out. It really takes a lot to get kicked out of a game. If this FO is really that sensitive (and it wouldn't surprise me with the way Pax has responded to criticism in the past), then they can **** right off already.
    Yep. Extremely hard to get kicked out. Iíve heard a lot of crazy **** being yelled and nothing. And when they guy got kicked out, he was very calm and level headed about it. He didnít seem wasted or obnoxious. I could see Garpax being that petty. And if he only got kicked out over the jersey....he should be reimbursed for his tickets, which were both great seats. Iím not a law expert at all, but that is a potential suit I would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG2TB View Post
    Yep. Extremely hard to get kicked out. Iíve heard a lot of crazy **** being yelled and nothing. And when they guy got kicked out, he was very calm and level headed about it. He didnít seem wasted or obnoxious. I could see Garpax being that petty. And if he only got kicked out over the jersey....he should be reimbursed for his tickets, which were both great seats. Iím not a law expert at all, but that is a potential suit I would imagine.
    Shows how far Chicago Bulls as an organization has fallen...y'all were one of the premier franchises in the NBA decades ago but hell even a few years ago when y'all had Rose, Butler, etc. y'all were still prominent but now I almost feel sorry for y'all really I do

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    Last edited by DamnGoat; 02-09-2020 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    And if that is the case then nothing really changes

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    Is that any different than the White Sox making Hahn the GM without firing Kenny Williams? Hahn has really turned things around for the Sox. Maybe the Bulls could be so lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears34ft View Post
    Is that any different than the White Sox making Hahn the GM without firing Kenny Williams? Hahn has really turned things around for the Sox. Maybe the Bulls could be so lucky
    I don't follow the White Sox, but the Bulls culture has to be one of the worst in the league. I doubt that changes if Paxson is moved to a consultant role where he's probably still the puppet master behind the scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    No he wont. That's what needs to happen. The only reason he is back out front now is because of the inability for Gar to pivot ofrom the Rose-Deng-Noah era. Gar had full control. the only way Pax even has a minor say is if we bring in a completely rookie style FO .

    Dream scenario Would be to get someone that would bring in Dave Joerger as coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    I don't follow the White Sox, but the Bulls culture has to be one of the worst in the league. I doubt that changes if Paxson is moved to a consultant role where he's probably still the puppet master behind the scenes.
    The white Sox were in shambles for most of the 2010s, and instead of making trades to build the farm, we kept trading the farm to try to compete, when we werenít close. They didnít fire Kenny Williams, but promoted Rick Hahn. Kenny Williams to the White Sox is Pax to the Bulls. Hahn has built one of the deepest systems in the league, and now we are starting to gain traction with big free agents.

    Iím not saying the Bulls will make changes, but Reinsdorf made the right changes for the Sox while staying loyal to his made men, and by all accounts that has been a success. Granted not with the wins yet, but every Diehard Sox fan has had 2020 penciled in for 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    If true, the bulls will need to fill the GM, VP, HC, and scouting staff? That is a major shakeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChitownbullsBG7 View Post
    No he wont. That's what needs to happen. The only reason he is back out front now is because of the inability for Gar to pivot ofrom the Rose-Deng-Noah era. Gar had full control. the only way Pax even has a minor say is if we bring in a completely rookie style FO .

    Dream scenario Would be to get someone that would bring in Dave Joerger as coach.
    Dream scenario for me is bringing in Masai (super unrealistic, I know) as team president.

    As far as Paxson's involvement goes, I will still have some concerns until I feel like whoever's hired has complete control. A guy like Masai (or even Morey, of the Rockets dump him) would likely have that from day one, or else they wouldn't come here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    I don't follow the White Sox, but the Bulls culture has to be one of the worst in the league. I doubt that changes if Paxson is moved to a consultant role where he's probably still the puppet master behind the scenes.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchp...er-season/amp/

    ďTeam sources expect Paxson will move into an advisory role. And that could be fine. The White Sox did a similar switch with Kenny Williams moving up and Rick Hahn taking over the baseball operations, and that seems to be working well.Ē

    I didnít read this before I wrote but they literally referenced my exact point. While Reinsdorf is loyal and doesnít fire his ďmade menĒ, he does make changes to whoís making the decisions. I feel like Pax to the Bulls is Williams to the Sox. Letís all pray we bring in the right guy for the job. Also, as much as we all hate being patient, we might need to practice patience with whoever comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears34ft View Post
    The white Sox were in shambles for most of the 2010s, and instead of making trades to build the farm, we kept trading the farm to try to compete, when we werenít close. They didnít fire Kenny Williams, but promoted Rick Hahn. Kenny Williams to the White Sox is Pax to the Bulls. Hahn has built one of the deepest systems in the league, and now we are starting to gain traction with big free agents.

    Iím not saying the Bulls will make changes, but Reinsdorf made the right changes for the Sox while staying loyal to his made men, and by all accounts that has been a success. Granted not with the wins yet, but every Diehard Sox fan has had 2020 penciled in for 4 years.
    I know most of this TBH since the path isn't that dissimilar to what the Cubs did leading up to 2015, but my concern with this scenario is, who is the Bulls version of Rick Hahn? If they're planning on firing the scouting department, then the new GM or team President is likely coming from outside the organization (which is good IMO).

    Baseball in general is just such a different dynamic too, in terms of roster building, so I don't really like drawing parallels between different sports. I get the point the point you're making, and see the Reinsdorf part of the equation, but my understanding is Michael Reinsdorf is more in charge of the Bulls now too. There's more variance here and the Bulls have been run a certain way for the last 20ish years, so until I see it, I will remain skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnGoat View Post
    I know most of this TBH since the path isn't that dissimilar to what the Cubs did leading up to 2015, but my concern with this scenario is, who is the Bulls version of Rick Hahn? If they're planning on firing the scouting department, then the new GM or team President is likely coming from outside the organization (which is good IMO).

    Baseball in general is just such a different dynamic too, in terms of roster building, so I don't really like drawing parallels between different sports. I get the point the point you're making, and see the Reinsdorf part of the equation, but my understanding is Michael Reinsdorf is more in charge of the Bulls now too. There's more variance here and the Bulls have been run a certain way for the last 20ish years, so until I see it, I will remain skeptical.
    The only parallel to be drawn from this is the same owner wonít necessarily fire his GM, but he will reconfigure things if the status quo isnít getting results. Iím not saying it will work and I agree itís 2 totally different sports and FO dynamics. But there is at least something to base a judgment on in terms of what the team owner (reimsdorf) will do. Being skeptical is all we have as bulls fans right now. The Sox were in the same boat, and prior to the Sale trade, we had the worst farm system in baseball. Fast forward a year, and a Quintana and Eaton trade later, and we had a top 3 farm. Fast forward 3 years and the White Sox had a top 3 offseason in baseball and are finally staring at potential success.

    All Iím really saying is, there is always a glimmer of hope, and news of restructuring our FO is a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears34ft View Post
    The only parallel to be drawn from this is the same owner wonít necessarily fire his GM, but he will reconfigure things if the status quo isnít getting results. Iím not saying it will work and I agree itís 2 totally different sports and FO dynamics. But there is at least something to base a judgment on in terms of what the team owner (reimsdorf) will do. Being skeptical is all we have as bulls fans right now. The Sox were in the same boat, and prior to the Sale trade, we had the worst farm system in baseball. Fast forward a year, and a Quintana and Eaton trade later, and we had a top 3 farm. Fast forward 3 years and the White Sox had a top 3 offseason in baseball and are finally staring at potential success.

    All Iím really saying is, there is always a glimmer of hope, and news of restructuring our FO is a start.
    I get it. Like I said, there'll always be skepticism until seeing results though, especially after the last 15-20 years with the way this organization has been run.

    I sincerely hope it works out, assuming sweeping changes are coming. I'd like to really care about the Bulls again.

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    Iíll take it. IMO ďadvisory roleĒ sounds like JR telling Pax ďIím loyal to you which is why Iím keeping you as part of this organizationĒ.

    The new VP/GM will be making all personnel decisions for this organization without Paxson interfering, otherwise no potential high profile FO man will take this job. I canít wait till this season is over now to see who will lead this franchise going forward. Better not be someone internal cuz Iíll be pissed.


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