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  1. #61
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    Also saw a report that we checked in on Parker too. He's intersting. Pretty talented but rarely healthy and just weird production.

    I don't have them checking on drake though. I think he's pretty decent actually. We want to run the ball and getting decent talent for possibly cheap isn't a bad thing. Lazard doesn't really need a spot on the roster, so it's not like we can't find room. And I'd be nervous if we actually had to use Dexter this year.

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    I donít understand that. As of right now I donít think we need it. We need another receiver who can get open and I would even take some ILB depth too.

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    Not sure exactly who you're refetencing, but Parker is a wr and he's actually shown flashes of being pretty good. Not sure hes a clear upgrade, but he definitely has more upside than alot of the guys we have.

    And drake is similar to me if that's who you're saying. He's an upgrade over Dexter in my mind and is as good as, if not better than Williams to me. Williams has more power but drake is a better overall runner and just as good at catching the ball. And sure, RB isn't our biggest need but that's not a reason to not look to upgrade if the price is right.

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    I wouldn't mind a Parker trade. Hes definitely shown some nice things and is not a treadwell/doctson/perriman case. Some of his struggles are on him but i also don't its wrong to say he's been in a pretty unfavorable situation. Thats an easy take when defending any WR but that doesn't mean its a wrong one. Look what a new system and QB did for Robert Woods, maybe Parker can experience something similar.

    He's on a 2 year deal , 4.4 now and 5 in 2020. Could get him in the building for the remainder of this season, then have a whole offseason to work him in. All for pretty cheap.

    Hes an upgrade to Allison and Kumerow for sure, so why not do it

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    Packers brought TE Evan Baylis to fill the open spot on the 53 man roster and signed WR Keon Hatcher to the PS.

    it's assumed they brought up Baylis because of Jimmy Graham's injury. The good thing about Baylis is he can block.

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    It sucks when the same teams that normally make big moves in the chiefs/eagles/pats etc are the same teams in on trading a first for the best corner in the game... I know its not a need but man **** a first round pick... go get him

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    Problem is I'm not sure just a first gets it done. The alleged offers so far are a first and a 5th from an nfc team and a first and a player from an afc team. That obviously hasn't gotten it done. I be shocked if he goes for less than a first and a third, unless a team picking at the top of the draft offers a first.

    Plus he wants to get paid. So unless you're willing to make him the highest paid db in the league, it's probably a 2 year rental, which is tough to move a first and more for unless you think you're window is closing.

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    I feel like we worry way to much about 3 years from now and that ****s us esp when we have a 35 year old QB... we can win now... go out and give up a first and a 3rd...... this is the best CB in the game... even if we dont resign him we get a 3rd and what 2 years of football? I feel like this is our biggest problem compared to others in the cowboys/chiefs/eagles/pats and hell even bears... we over value the **** out of our picks and fail miserably on said first round picks. There is proven talent out there over a question mark... go do it

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    But it's not even the draft picks that are as big of deal. Sure, the picks will likely not be as good as ramsey. But it's the picks and the cap space.

    I agree with what you're saying when it's a position of need. But corner isn't a huge need for us. So the upgrade may not be as big, then yoh add in the cost ans future money, and you don't have the cash to upgrade elsewhere.

    And that's where it makes sense foe a team like Kansas city. They legit need a CB. Same with the minkah trade for pitt. They legit would use their pick on a xb.
    Last edited by crewfan13; 09-21-2019 at 12:40 PM.

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    Rodgers is 35 but i still feel like we have a 3 or 4 year window him. Weíve all had our issues with the FO in the past but this offseason really showed that theyíre at least on the right track to try and make one maybe two more realistic title runs. They didnít sit on their hands like in years past, not even a little bit, so we cant really be too upset that they arenít throwing around 1st rounders this early in the season, after an offseason like that.

    Yes every season with 12 from now on has to be treated as the most important year by the FO, they for sure cant be too paranoid about 2-3 years down the road, but again i think they did right by 2019 and did a lot of things to try and contend this season. Its only week 3, but I kinda view us as the 2017 Saints in how in one offseason so many things changed and they broke out. Then come 2020 maybe Gute can move a 2021 1st for someone, or trade up in the draft etc, similar to what the Saints did (with us) in 2018.

    Getting Minkah or Ramsey would've been sick but we are looking really nice at that position and not so nice at WR, and if Bulaga is gone then we need a T in round 1 or 2. I ultimately think thats why they passed on these guys. A 36 year old Rodgers next year definitely needs an influx of high round offensive talent, i would love to see them add a T and WR early. If Bulaga is kept then we are in prime position to take a WR in the 1st round, its looking to be a really good class at the top. Possibly even another RB at some point cause Jones and a round 1-3 guy could be deadly. I believe this is where Gutes mind is

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    with all due respect i think a five year window for Rodgers playing in Green Bay is unrealistic. he could still be playing football but not in Green Bay with his current salary. honestly he is getting massively overpaid right now. his normal 300 yards and 2 to 3 TD's a couple of years ago have spiraled down to the current 200 yards and 1 to 2 TD's. those numbers get him two more years in Green Bay without a large reduction in salary. does Rodgers strike anyone in being the guy that voluntarily reduces his salary? he is 1 year out from wanting an only sliding higher scale. say for instance GB drafts 1 or 2 WR's high next year. those WR's will be 2 years away from earning Rodgers trust. that puts them at the very closure of the window. that assumes a lot does not change to the negative. a more realistic window is now to two more years out. next years draft almost has to be about O line, LB's, backup/ future QB, possible kicker. i would not be against a high WR taken but it is infuriating knowing all the wasted ammo in the last 3 drafts. the most "WOW factor" WR's i have seen have been walk on's (Shepherd and Lazard) and Rodgers doesn't even see them in the regular season. while i am excited to see GB playing good football again personally i think the window is closed. Rodgers best years were wasted by a bumbling coach and a spongy minded GM more worried about youth and the salary cap than putting the best team on the field.

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    The window isn't closed. What a stupid statement. Has Rodgers played as well as he has in the past? No. But the team is as good as its been in years on defense and the offense still hasn't clickes, but has shown signs.

    Heck, last year with a significantly less talented defense we were in position to potentially beat both super bowl participants. If we win those two winable games and don't get the horrible call vs Minnesota that cost a win, we legit could have finished 9-7. That doesn't even include a close loss to Seattle that included that horrible catch review and Crosby missing 5 kicks in a dome. We weren't bad last year as a whole and our defense was awful.

    This team can play with anyone, especially if the offense clicks. Will Rodgers ever play at the same sustained level that he did in 2011? No, but the window isn't closed. No reason we can't do what the saints have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    The window isn't closed. What a stupid statement. Has Rodgers played as well as he has in the past? No. But the team is as good as its been in years on defense and the offense still hasn't clickes, but has shown signs.

    Heck, last year with a significantly less talented defense we were in position to potentially beat both super bowl participants. If we win those two winable games and don't get the horrible call vs Minnesota that cost a win, we legit could have finished 9-7. That doesn't even include a close loss to Seattle that included that horrible catch review and Crosby missing 5 kicks in a dome. We weren't bad last year as a whole and our defense was awful.

    This team can play with anyone, especially if the offense clicks. Will Rodgers ever play at the same sustained level that he did in 2011? No, but the window isn't closed. No reason we can't do what the saints have done.
    While i agree the window isnít closed .... i do agree with him that Rodgers wonít be taking less money to win.

    What amazes me about Tom Brady is his will to win leadership and how he continues to take less money to allow bellichek to add play makers around him.


    I wish Rodgers would do it. But he wonít

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    Quote Originally Posted by petrey10 View Post
    While i agree the window isnít closed .... i do agree with him that Rodgers wonít be taking less money to win.

    What amazes me about Tom Brady is his will to win leadership and how he continues to take less money to allow bellichek to add play makers around him.


    I wish Rodgers would do it. But he wonít
    Tom Brady also isnt even the highest earner in his own household. I'll never fault a player for taking what they can get. These dudes risk a ton and should be compensated for it. Teams won't hesitate to dump you when you quit performing, so I don't fault a guy for taking his money.

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    Yeah cause Danica is hurting for money. Pls weak argument

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