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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    That's just it....why exactly is he fighting this so hard? Has he even TRIED any of the accepted helmets? Or is he just being obstinate while also garnering an excuse to skip practices.

    Even if he were to win, the win would be temporary as the helmet will continue to become outdated.
    He tried 1, said he couldnít see as well because the shell was too far from his head, and gave up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Honest question for the group here:

    Wouldn't it be smart (I know a word not associated with AB right now) to practice in a different helmet? *Maybe ask the equipment guys to have 5-6 ready to go so he could switch out when he wants to right now? *Then if you fight this and win....awesome. *If you lose, you've been trying different helmets and facemasks all along, and it won't take long to adjust to the new helmet and you know which one you want right away?
    That would be a bit like being caught on a golf course when filing for disability with a bad back. Once he is seen in another helmet, his leverage will dry up.

    Seems the NFL is just using this situation for publicity being tough on player safety, as there was no reason to "fail" the 2014 version of the helmet. If we had media folks with critical thinking skills, it would do the opposite though.

    There is no concussion test for helmets. That's why they only certify on skull fractures. If the helmet fails the skull fracture test now, then it always did, even just a few years ago when it was a commonly used certified and approved helmet. Which means anyone who got a head injury back then can and should sue everyone.



    The "fail" now is only because there exists better helmets. Which is a bit like banning every car older than a 2015, because there are better airbags in the new 2020 models.
    Dak: 12,999 @ 66.7%, 7.6 per att, 79 TD, 32 INT
    Wentz: 11,801 @ 63.4%, 7.0 per att, 83 TD, 32 INT



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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    That's just it....why exactly is he fighting this so hard? Has he even TRIED any of the accepted helmets? Or is he just being obstinate while also garnering an excuse to skip practices.

    Even if he were to win, the win would be temporary as the helmet will continue to become outdated.
    He got a 2014 model which would last until 2024. Could be retired by then.
    Dak: 12,999 @ 66.7%, 7.6 per att, 79 TD, 32 INT
    Wentz: 11,801 @ 63.4%, 7.0 per att, 83 TD, 32 INT



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    Because he doesn't want to play... He's got $30M guaranteed, and is on a bad team. I wouldn't be shocked if he demands a trade before the deadline because he got his money and now wants a good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgjohnson7851 View Post
    Because he doesn't want to play... He's got $30M guaranteed, and is on a bad team. I wouldn't be shocked if he demands a trade before the deadline because he got his money and now wants a good team.
    I mean Bell is sitting out of preseason as well. Could be that Brown will suddenly have a new helmet once he has managed to skip preseason.
    Dak: 12,999 @ 66.7%, 7.6 per att, 79 TD, 32 INT
    Wentz: 11,801 @ 63.4%, 7.0 per att, 83 TD, 32 INT



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    He got a 2014 model which would last until 2024. Could be retired by then.
    it's outdated now, so how would it last until 2024?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    it's outdated now, so how would it last until 2024?
    Helmets are allowed for 10 years. So far Brown used the same helmet since entering the league in 2008.

    He acquired a 2014 model, which would be allowed until 2024, but IIRC the NFL changed the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB_Eagles View Post
    Helmets are allowed for 10 years. So far Brown used the same helmet since entering the league in 2008.

    He acquired a 2014 model, which would be allowed until 2024, but IIRC the NFL changed the rules.
    Technically that did t change the rules. The helmet isnít certified by NOCSEA anymore, so the NFL and NFPA agreed to let an independent lab in Ottawa test the helmet (a testing center for all sports) and the report is even the 2014 model failed the basic impact test, so the NFL and NFPA jointly decided to tell him no.

    I think thatís his big uphill battle. Heís not just fighting the NFL (like Brady with his issue); heís also fighting the NFPA who did this change with the NFL as a partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    it's outdated now, so how would it last until 2024?
    If it did/does/had passed certification, it lasts 10 years after manufacture.
    Dak: 12,999 @ 66.7%, 7.6 per att, 79 TD, 32 INT
    Wentz: 11,801 @ 63.4%, 7.0 per att, 83 TD, 32 INT



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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Technically that did t change the rules. The helmet isnít certified by NOCSEA anymore, so the NFL and NFPA agreed to let an independent lab in Ottawa test the helmet (a testing center for all sports) and the report is even the 2014 model failed the basic impact test, so the NFL and NFPA jointly decided to tell him no.

    I think thatís his big uphill battle. Heís not just fighting the NFL (like Brady with his issue); heís also fighting the NFPA who did this change with the NFL as a partner.
    So if NOCSEA passed it last year... (helmets have to be recertified every year to be certified, per NOCSEA website) and now another lab tested it and said it failed basic impact test... is NOCSEA just completely incompetent?

    Did NOCSEA (and by extension the NFL) intentionally and knowingly allow Brown to play with an unsafe helmet last year?

    Or is most of this just made up political nonsense trying to counter the "NFL bad, unsafe for players" meme?




    See, that's the problem. His helmet can't fail a basic impact test without NOCSEA being a sham. Because it would have failed it every year for the last decade too.
    Dak: 12,999 @ 66.7%, 7.6 per att, 79 TD, 32 INT
    Wentz: 11,801 @ 63.4%, 7.0 per att, 83 TD, 32 INT



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    He has an inflexible personality. This helmet situation is just bringing light to that. He's a stubborn, my way highway type. I'm sure others aren't fond of adjusting to new helmets, but maybe most others are more flexible and will try to adapt with less resistance.

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    He's claiming in this grievance filing that he didn't have the same 1 year grace period as all other players.

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    The guy is a head case but an amazing talent.

    He could have a great season seeing how the Raiders will be behind far more than the Steelers were and have to pass. I know Carr isn't Big Ben but he can make it work.

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