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    Quote Originally Posted by LionsFan..LOL View Post
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    Who could have seen this one coming?
    No one seriously wanted him? Lol... other coaches got fired and got coordinator jobs right away!lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket View Post
    trade him b4 the news gets out
    welp

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    Former @RamsNFL CB Coach Aubrey Pleasant has accepted the job with the @Lions as their secondary coach/passing game coordinator. Huge get for Detroit, tough loss for the Rams
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    Flint native too for whatever that is worth.

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    What Jalen Ramsey had to say about Aubrey Pleasant:
    Jalen Ramsey also had high praise to Rams CBs coach Aubrey Pleasant: "In my opinion, this is the best body of work that I've put out in the NFL, and a lot of that is thanks to him." Said Pleasant "for sure" has the skillset to get looks as a defensive coordinator.
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    this staff we are assembling is getting high praise from national and local media

    Ducey Staley and now getting Aubrey is really solid

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    So we just stole the LB coach of the Bears to be our LB here. Seems like that has to be an upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garnotm View Post
    So we just stole the LB coach of the Bears to be our LB here. Seems like that has to be an upgrade.

    Mark Deleone incase no one has seen it yet.
    Looking at what he did with Roquan Smith this year and Justin Houston, Derrick Johnson, and Tamba Hali in KC. I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LionsFan..LOL View Post
    Looking at what he did with Roquan Smith this year and Justin Houston, Derrick Johnson, and Tamba Hali in KC. I'm in.
    This was my thoughts as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LionsFan..LOL View Post
    Looking at what he did with Roquan Smith this year and Justin Houston, Derrick Johnson, and Tamba Hali in KC. I'm in.
    I wasn’t aware that he worked in KC... honestly Hali, Houston and Johnson were a force to be reckoned with. I pretty pleased with the hire.
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    Really good article on theAthletic right now regarding how the team feels about the current team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Burke @ TheAthletic.com
    Dan Campbell knows that what he and Brad Holmes are about to ask of Lions fans won’t be easy, for anyone. He was on this roster (albeit injured) as this franchise bottomed out at 0-16 in 2008, a mere 45 or 50 years into Detroit’s inability to field a consistent contender. Now, the count’s at six decades, and the Lions just agreed to ship their star quarterback to the Rams.

    The dream of flipping this thing on its head and producing a winner right out of the gate is probably unrealistic, although the Lions will damn sure try — Campbell wouldn’t concede a wrestling match with a bear, let alone an NFL game.

    But what the new coach and GM need now are time. A little patience. Trust. Does Detroit have any of that left to spare?

    “You’re right, it is a hard sell,” Campbell told The Athletic on Sunday morning, via Zoom from his Allen Park office. “But all I know is, man, I think we do ourselves a disservice and we do the fan base a disservice if we say we’re going all in, right now. Because you know what happens? You’re going to stink in Year 2, Year 3. You’re not going to sustain. …

    “We want to build a consistent winner, so that every year we are in position to win the NFC North. There’s one way to do that: You have to build this from the ground up, and it’s gotta come from the draft.”

    The Lions prefer to run with “retool” instead of the “rebuild” terminology. That’s understandable. The latter does suggest some level of apathy toward wins and losses, and there is no desire to let that mentality take hold. But what Campbell is pitching, and what the Matthew Stafford trade hammers home, is a long way from a fresh coat of paint and some new light fixtures.

    After nearly three years spent trying to talk themselves into Matt Patricia’s vision, the Lions entered this hiring cycle ready to accept their reality: That they probably weren’t as close as they thought to being real contenders at the end of the Jim Caldwell era, and that they’re not even in the vicinity right now.

    That doesn’t mean the 2021 season will be a complete waste, especially if Holmes keeps cooking in trades, free agency and the draft. A one-year blip that takes Detroit from 5-11 to 8-8 or 9-7 won’t mean a whole heck of a lot, though, if it’s all smoke and mirrors. Especially in light of Stafford’s imminent exit, this roster needs an identity. It needs that proverbial foundation that won’t crumble to dust whenever a key player departs or a couple of bad breaks hit.

    “Of course I want to win now,” Campbell said. “Who doesn’t want to win now? And we’ll do whatever we can to win now, but not to sacrifice what we can become long term. I look at things two years out — I don’t look at them right now. I want to know where we can be two years from now, even possibly three years from now. I know that’s crazy in this business, but if you want to have long-term success, something you can sustain, something where we can create a winner here in the North for a long period of time, you have to build it properly. You have to have building blocks. You have to have a core.”

    That’s where Holmes comes in. Part of what sold the Lions on the 41-year-old former director of college scouting is that he helped the Rams uncover key piece after key piece in the mid- to late rounds of the draft. The Los Angeles front office has not made a first-round pick since taking Goff at No. 1 overall in 2016, and now — thanks to the pending Stafford trade — won’t have a Round 1 slot until at least 2024.

    Holmes now has an extra shot at finding value in 2021, thanks to the Rams’ third-rounder he’ll acquire, plus he’ll hold five first-round picks over the coming three drafts. And helping him navigate how best to use all of those selections is new senior personnel executive John Dorsey, a talent-evaluating guru in his own right who has spearheaded improvements in Kansas City and Cleveland.

    It’s also where the Lions’ coaching staff becomes important. Team president Rod Wood promised in Campbell’s introductory news conference that talented coaches would want to jump to Detroit, and that has proven prophetic thus far. Campbell has added offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn, defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and running backs coach Duce Staley, while retaining offensive line coach Hank Fraley and tight ends coach Ben Johnson. Recently, at Glenn’s request, he added longtime coach Dom Capers as a senior defensive assistant.

    “If we don’t make one other move right now, these guys on this roster are going to be better players than they were last year,” Campbell said. “I know that in my heart, because of the gentlemen that I’m bringing in to teach and coach. That’s a start.”

    It’s a needed variation from the ways of the prior regime, which put its trust — well above anything else — on its scheme, and the techniques and fundamentals within. As a result, not only did the Lions typically misfire when they added pieces via free agency, they also faltered at developing their homegrown talent. Hence, why the challenge facing Campbell is what it is in the first place.

    “These guys, no matter what happens here, they’re going to instantly have somebody that can help them be better as players,” he said. “They can help with their craft, with their fundamentals.

    “I swore I was not going to just hire a guy because he was my buddy. If I happen to have a relationship with you and you’re an outstanding person, outstanding coach, that’s a bonus. But I refuse to hire the guy that gave me my first opportunity, and he’s an outstanding person but an average coach. I’m not doing it.”

    Again, the Lions know how this sounds. This franchise hasn’t won a playoff game since 1991, hasn’t won a division title since ’93 and went 14-33-1 under Patricia. The fans are not in this for incremental gains that result in slightly more competitive third- or fourth-place finishes. In a league that touts parity, it’s almost incomprehensible that Detroit has been this inept for this long.

    Everyone around here has heard what Campbell and Holmes are pitching, too: A shared vision forward. Confidence that they know how to build this and build it right, so the Lions aren’t back in this exact same spot a few seasons from now. Coaches and GMs have come and gone preaching the same sermon.

    Which is why the Lions were so meticulous in their process this time around. They won’t know whether they made the right or wrong calls for a good while yet, but there is a genuine belief from owner Sheila Ford Hamp on down that this pairing — Campbell and Holmes — can break the mold, on the field and off of it.

    Unfortunately, the only way to prove this all works … is for it to work. And, as much as they’d like to, the Lions have no way of putting a timeframe on the job ahead.

    “If you think you’re gonna just fill it with a bunch of free agents, no matter how much I love those guys or we find the right guys, you’re crazy,” Campbell said. “You have to build this properly. All I would ask is the fans just hang in with us.”

    They’ll try, like always. Maybe this will be the time the Lions repay that faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardking13 View Post
    Really good article on theAthletic right now regarding how the team feels about the current team.
    great article. This is why I feel for the first time ever that this isn't the same old lions mentality. I said that if we truly wanted to be contenders then we needed to blow this thing up and build it back up. Retooling this franchise is what needs to be done.



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    They did the big thing that needed to be done. Moved on from Stafford.

    However, I think what is really going to show you what their plan is for the future is Golladay. If they resign him than that's a sign that they think they can win right now with Goff. Which, would be an absolute disaster. If they let him walk/trade him, then I will really believe they have everything under control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigers.6 View Post
    They did the big thing that needed to be done. Moved on from Stafford.

    However, I think what is really going to show you what their plan is for the future is Golladay. If they resign him than that's a sign that they think they can win right now with Goff. Which, would be an absolute disaster. If they let him walk/trade him, then I will really believe they have everything under control.
    I think we franchise Golladay and trade him for picks. Its the only logical thing to do and we just can't let him walk but that's easier said then done.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tigers.6 View Post
    They did the big thing that needed to be done. Moved on from Stafford.

    However, I think what is really going to show you what their plan is for the future is Golladay. If they resign him than that's a sign that they think they can win right now with Goff. Which, would be an absolute disaster. If they let him walk/trade him, then I will really believe they have everything under control.
    Do we have the car room to tag him or sign him? I thought since we swallowed Goff’s contract that we did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigers.6 View Post
    They did the big thing that needed to be done. Moved on from Stafford.

    However, I think what is really going to show you what their plan is for the future is Golladay. If they resign him than that's a sign that they think they can win right now with Goff. Which, would be an absolute disaster. If they let him walk/trade him, then I will really believe they have everything under control.
    Depends on Golladay's actual cost too right? He was hurt almost the entire year...2 of the 4 years he's been in the league he's been VERY good. 1 year he was injured and his first year was...well his first year.

    I don't think his agent has a ton of leverage to make him a top 5 or top 10 paid WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vader817 View Post
    I think we franchise Golladay and trade him for picks. Its the only logical thing to do and we just can't let him walk but that's easier said then done.
    I believe paying above $20 million for a 27 year old WR who couldn't come back from god knows what type of injury is crazy to me. Don't get me wrong, he's a good WR and If this team was competitive I would make the argument for keeping him but we don't need him right now, plain and simple.

    I believe if he leaves in free agency, we'd get a compensatory 3rd round pick. It's not a lot, but it would be 'something'. Which brings up the idea of tagging him and trying to trade him. Do you believe that we would get more than a 3rd round pick? It's interesting because if you look at Brandin Cooks, and what he's been traded for in the past, you'd think we'd for sure be able to get more than that. However, the guys on The Ticket today did not think they'd be able to get more than a 3rd.

    Thoughts?

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