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  1. #1036
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    Quote Originally Posted by TO Rapz View Post
    Anthony Davis
    Nikola Jokic
    Giannis Antentoukoumpo
    Joel Embiid
    Karl Anthony Towns
    Ben Simmons
    Brad Beal
    Luke Doncic
    Jayson Tatum
    Donovan Mitchell
    Myles Turner
    Jamal Murray

    Im not saying all these guys are definitely better, I'm saying its a list of ONLY young players let alone the elite guys above 26 that are right there in terms of value with Pascal. Its all about who takes the next step.
    It's possible but he will need to majorly round out his offense.

    He might already be the best defender on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    It's possible but he will need to majorly round out his offense.

    He might already be the best defender on that list.
    Its possible he cracks the top 20 list first

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    Quote Originally Posted by TO Rapz View Post
    Anthony Davis
    Nikola Jokic
    Giannis Antentoukoumpo
    Joel Embiid
    Karl Anthony Towns
    Ben Simmons
    Brad Beal
    Luke Doncic
    Jayson Tatum
    Donovan Mitchell
    Myles Turner
    Jamal Murray

    Im not saying all these guys are definitely better, I'm saying its a list of ONLY young players let alone the elite guys above 26 that are right there in terms of value with Pascal. Its all about who takes the next step.
    I like him better than about half those guys now. But in general, I'm a believer that he has another step he can get to. It does depend on who all gets better over the next few years

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    On the talent side of the equation its not clear-cut that Pascal is on that top 10 list and I don't blame people for thinking that way because most reasonable people default on the talent portion.

    But the Championship pedigree elevates everything - he became a two-way player in a very short period of time and also won an NBA championship in that same time frame. It basically sets him up for the rest of his playing career so even if he plateau's at some point; he'll still be able to perform in high-pressure situations whether its defensive assignments or making shots. In terms of overall value - potential aside - he's on that list.

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    Raps need to bring in Campazzo from Argentina. I think he can be a JJ Barera tyoe with better defense. Possible rotational player if Lowry leaves.

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    Two way players clearly better
    Leonard
    Durant
    Giannis
    Lebron
    Davis
    Thompson
    George
    Butler
    Embiid
    Jokic

    Non two way players but still better
    Harden
    Curry
    Lillard
    Irving
    WB

    Arguable list
    Griffen
    Walker
    KAT
    McCollum
    Draymond Green
    Oladipo
    Beal
    Conley
    Paul
    Mitchel
    Gobert

    Probably missing some


    I have Siakam as a top 25 player currently, well see how he does as a first option this season and possibly move up that list. I think he can crack top 20 this year.
    Last edited by smith&wesson; 09-13-2019 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Two way players clearly better
    Leonard
    Durant
    Giannis
    Lebron
    Davis
    Thompson
    George
    Butler
    Embiid
    Jokic

    Non two way players but still better
    Harden
    Curry
    Lillard
    Irving
    WB

    Arguable list
    Griffen
    Walker
    KAT
    McCollum
    Draymond Green
    Oladipo
    Beal
    Conley
    Paul
    Mitchel
    Gobert

    Probably missing some


    I have Siakam as a top 25 player currently, well see how he does as a first option this season and possibly move up that list. I think he can crack top 20 this year.
    I think he belongs in the same category as Thompson/embiid/butler.

  8. #1043
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    Pascal, Norm, OG, RHJ, Davis, Hernandez, Thomas, Boucher

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg0e-iCU1Jc

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