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    In all my years of Jets fandom, this is truly the most jaw-droppingly insane thing the team has ever done. Mac should've been gone with Bowles. I'm glad he's out, but jesus christ we even found a way to **** up a good thing.

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    Wow, this is dumb beyond dumb.


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    haha delusional
    Someone underestimated the jets!

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    Christopher Johnson at the owners' meetings (late March) on Maccagnan: "I think heís terrific at his job. He has a plan that I believe in. Itís really key that heís working well with Adam." How's that for a quote? #Jets

    WTF
    The Johnsons are still better than the Wilpons but that's not saying much.


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    I have been on record as being very critical of the prospects drafted by Mac over the past few years other than the ones that fell in his lap. He had one top moment with trading up prior to the draft to have a chance at either Mayfield or Darnold and Darnold was the one that fell to him once the Giants took Barkeley. I have also been very critical of the fact that he refused to prioritize the offensive line. So, basically, I thought that he should have been fired when Bowles was fired.

    That being said, I'm wondering whether upper management was also annoyed with him not getting a tried and true center. Perhaps the story is true that Gase wanted Paradis and not Bell. Obviously, while Mac was courting Bell, he did not focus on two major needs of OL and Edge Rusher and top players signed elsewhere. Perhaps , he thought that he could get a center in the draft. There was an article written that he wanted to trade down and get Bradbury and another article that he wanted to trade back into the second round for OL help. I know they've said that they are happy with Jonathan at center, but what are they going to say, when they might have f'd up?

    Most teams draft their franchise QB in the first round and then draft an offensive lineman and a playmaker in that same draft if possible to protect him and give him a reliable weapon. The Jets draft a franchise QB and then do not draft or sign needed linemen or playmakers, in that draft and then forget to prioritize it later. As any owner would do, they would want to protect the Franchise QB from injury.

    therefore, upper management might have finally decided that enough is enough and Mac blew his last chance in the draft when he drafted a tight end, a linebacker and an injured cornerback with his final 3 picks.

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    Probably not the best way to endear yourself to a couple of players who will be placed in prominent roles. Adam Gase might want to shut down the leaks in the @nyjets building as the de facto GM. Trust between coach and player, particularly the star players is critical.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    I have been on record as being very critical of the prospects drafted by Mac over the past few years other than the ones that fell in his lap. He had one top moment with trading up prior to the draft to have a chance at either Mayfield or Darnold and Darnold was the one that fell to him once the Giants took Barkeley. I have also been very critical of the fact that he refused to prioritize the offensive line. So, basically, I thought that he should have been fired when Bowles was fired.

    That being said, I'm wondering whether upper management was also annoyed with him not getting a tried and true center. Perhaps the story is true that Gase wanted Paradis and not Bell. Obviously, while Mac was courting Bell, he did not focus on two major needs of OL and Edge Rusher and top players signed elsewhere. Perhaps , he thought that he could get a center in the draft. There was an article written that he wanted to trade down and get Bradbury and another article that he wanted to trade back into the second round for OL help. I know they've said that they are happy with Jonathan at center, but what are they going to say, when they might have f'd up?

    Most teams draft their franchise QB in the first round and then draft an offensive lineman and a playmaker in that same draft if possible to protect him and give him a reliable weapon. The Jets draft a franchise QB and then do not draft or sign needed linemen or playmakers, in that draft and then forget to prioritize it later. As any owner would do, they would want to protect the Franchise QB from injury.

    therefore, upper management might have finally decided that enough is enough and Mac blew his last chance in the draft when he drafted a tight end, a linebacker and an injured cornerback with his final 3 picks.
    Well they draft Herndon and they didn't have a 2nd round pick because they drafted Darnold.


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    Iím utterly speechless. I was done with Mac last year but they decided to keep him just to have the coach he hired stab him in the back before the team even takes the field?

    Things are already looking very bad for Gase. He seems to be a combative snake and is coming out the gate with a very shaky hold of the locker room. He didnít want Bell so he undercuts the GM and goes to the owner after Bell is already signed. Now Bell Iím sure is upset and heís already starting rifts in the locker room. I wanted Paradis too, but he went about this the completely wrong way.

    Now he just seems completely untrustworthy and I am very worried heís just gonna surround himself with ďyesĒ men when he hasnít done a thing to deserve that power.

    And if he doesnít hire a yes man thereís a strong chance the GM returns the favor and wants to bring his own guy and we continue to be stuck in this nonstop cycle of turnover.

    DISASTER.

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    Losing record, no playoff wins: Adam Gase takes control of Jets

    If the New York Jets had decided to clean house following the 2018 season, firing general manager Mike Maccagnan along with coach Todd Bowles, it would not have registered a high number on the shock meter. After all, it was the Jets' third straight losing season. But, no, they opted to keep Maccagnan. They let him play a significant role in the hiring of coach Adam Gase. They let him spend more than $125 million in guarantees on free agents. They let him run the 2019 NFL draft, which included selecting a prospect with the No. 3 overall pick. They let him be the football boss.

    "I think he's terrific at his job," Jets CEO Christopher Johnson said in late March at the annual NFL owners meetings. "He has a plan that I believe in. It's really key that he's working well with Adam."

    It's amateur hour in Florham Park, New Jersey, folks.

    Conjuring up memories of their many infamous moments from a star-crossed past (remember Bill Belichick resigning as the HC of the NYJ?), the Jets dusted off their old dunce cap and shocked the NFL with a move that raises serious questions about the leadership of the franchise.

    Johnson, who has been in charge for only two years, just dumped a guy -- Maccagnan -- whom he empowered to make franchise-altering decisions. We're talking about the signings of Le'Veon Bell and C.J. Mosley and the drafting of Quinnen Williams. It reeks of inexperience on the part of Johnson, the affable younger brother of owner Woody Johnson who appears to have been swallowed up by the responsibility of the job.


    The Jets turned their organization into a "Game of Thrones" episode, a classic power struggle in which Gase prevailed over Maccagnan. Gase, a losing coach with the Miami Dolphins and a 23-25 overall coaching record, has ascended to the iron throne. Imagine that. No one other than the Jets wanted to hire him off the scrap heap, and now he's the king at One Jets Drive.

    All hail Adam Gase, King of the North (Jersey), whisperer to quarterbacks, loser of many games, friend of Peyton Manning.


    The Jets hired Adam Gase as their coach in January and as of May 15, the 41-year-old will also take over interim general manager duties. Michael Conroy/AP Photo
    Oh, the Jets will hire a new general manager -- Philadelphia Eagles executive Joe Douglas, a Gase crony, is the favorite -- but is there any doubt who is running the show? Only the Jets could turn a 23-25 coach into a leader of an organization. This emperor has no playoff victories.

    Reports of friction between Gase and Maccagnan emerged during the draft. There were rumors of Maccagnan's looming demise, which the Jets privately refuted. In fact, the discord between Gase and Maccagnan was real, as ESPN reported at the time. Johnson was so concerned that he started spending more time at the facility to monitor their working relationship, sources said. People in the organization felt Gase and Maccagnan would work through it, and they would get a one-year honeymoon before ownership re-evaluated after the season.

    For the record, the Gase-Maccagnan marriage lasted only four months. Very Kardashian.

    It doesn't matter who is in charge; the Jets stink at matchmaking. The Rex Ryan-John Idzik pairing blew up in spectacular fashion, but at least that lasted two years. Maccagnan and Bowles, too, had their issues, but they managed to survive four years.

    Now, this. If the Johnson brothers owned e-Harmony, it would go out of business in no time.

    The Gase-Maccagnan dynamic has occupied Christopher Johnson's thoughts for a couple of months. At one point, before the draft, he considered a change, sources said. He decided to ride it out and, after taking some time after the draft to re-assess the situation, he opted to make the change for "the best long-term interests" of the organization, he said in Wednesday's statement. Ultimately, this could turn out to be a wise move because Gase will have a comfort level with his new partner. Clearly, he didn't have that with Maccagnan. As much as the two men denied it, they clashed over personnel decisions in free agency.

    The problem is, why did it have to get to this point? Why did Johnson believe they could co-exist? Did he know Gase was power hungry when he hired him? Do you really trust Johnson to get it right?

    The Jets are a mess, a bumbling organization that makes the New York Knicks look like the pillars of stability. It's no wonder they haven't reached a Super Bowl in 50 years.
    http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-je...ontrol-of-jets


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    "You don't know how to drink. Your whole generation, you drink for the wrong reasons. My generation, we drink because it's good, because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar, because we deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."

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    "You don't know how to drink. Your whole generation, you drink for the wrong reasons. My generation, we drink because it's good, because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar, because we deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."

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    We just have to win.. the players have to play and play hard! Everyone wanted mac fired but now complain when it happened?

    Scouts and gm work year round to find nfl talent.. firing him now makes more sense then before draft to me.. a Gm or Gase himself can find the talent needed and fill the holes we have now. There is still plenty of offseason to find 2 key positions in wide receiver and corner.. I donít think our center is that bad.. he came in mid season and the bad snap problems disappeared.

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    This is going to be interesting going forward. The first thing I feel needs to be done is for Gase to reach out to Bell and Mosley to let them know they are very important to the team's success and he can't wait to get to work with them. I am wondering what Gase can do now. For instance could he try to trade with Carolina for Paradis' or sign other free agents or does he have to wait until a new GM is hired.
    This team would look a lot different if Macc had been fired before free agency. They probably would have signed Paradis and not signed Bell or Mosley. I am wondering who they would have brought in instead of them. The Jets can't think about that now they must focus on what they have now and how to make this team better. This is a good roster with a lot of potential. Lets see what you got coach Gase

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    Iím just trying to understand who made the Gase hire?

    If it was Mac then Gase comes off as a real prick and a snake.

    If it was Chris Johnson then that indicates a deeper problem with ownership and an awful way to run an organization. Having the coach and GM operating separate from each other under the owner will cause chaos 100% of the time. That means the next GM hire is destined for turmoil as well, especially with Gases douchey personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JETS TURN! View Post
    We just have to win.. the players have to play and play hard! Everyone wanted mac fired but now complain when it happened?

    Scouts and gm work year round to find nfl talent.. firing him now makes more sense then before draft to me.. a Gm or Gase himself can find the talent needed and fill the holes we have now. There is still plenty of offseason to find 2 key positions in wide receiver and corner.. I donít think our center is that bad.. he came in mid season and the bad snap problems disappeared.
    I think the major complaint is not that Mac was fired, but that he was fired AFTER the draft and FA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Fact or speculation?

    I also wondered if because of Mac's ties to domestic violence issues, maybe the Jets had a shot or have a shot at Hill and Mac got fired because he won't budge?
    That is fvcking stupid even if 0.01% true

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