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  1. #16
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    We need to do all we can to draft Morant and then sign Rose or Patrick Beverly to back him up. Then sign a cheap big for depth. We would be in great shape if that happened

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    I like Brogdon for the next 4 years at PG for us if we miss on Ja.

    It doesnít close the door on landing a Star here. Say we end up with Culver or RJ we will have a potential star in that pick, and we will have really good trade bait.

    Whatever position you want to go for broke on in a trade, you pair 2 of our young guys and a future pick, and you have the ability to make it happen.

    You get Brogdon at an upper teens low 20s deal, heís still an asset.

    Porter will be a big trade asset in his last year.

    Lavine, Lauri, Wendell are all high end trade assets.

    If we get 2-4 those are all very big assets that would be draws for any team looking to rebuild and unload their current star.

    Signing Brogdon would put us in the thick of a weak East right away, and it wouldnít put a damper in our future flexibility.

    Brogdon/Lavine/Porter/Lauri/Wendell
    Dunn/(RJ or Culver)/Hutch/Rolo would be a really good 9 man playoff rotation.

    It would be the type of team that would get the attention of the elites.

    While I wouldnít mind Rose, Bev, Collison, they donít bring any long term value whether itís on court or trade value. Brogdon brings both.

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    I do get the concern about cost and flexibility, I just donít think thatíll be an issue since we have so many assets in this scenario

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    Brogdan reminds me of Tyler Johnson, JJ Redick, James Johnson, etc. Not in his game but in how some fans are pushing for him as a must. This team needs a better point guard than Brogdan.

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    Iíd say heís way way better than TJ and James Johnson. Reddick was actually an extremely valuable overpay for the 76ers. Theyíd be lost without a shooter like him.

    Outside of Reddick, those other 2 guys are awful shooters compared to the elite shooting Brogdon gives you. The Bucks stumbled down the stretch without him.

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    Iím also not saying we need Brogdon. Heís just my 1st choice of the FA PGs. Collison being 2nd and Rose 3. Thatís out of realistic options. Obviously thereís guys like Kyrie who we wonít get so no use wasting a breath on him

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    D Rose comes back to the Bulls, plays 82 games, and wins MVP....on a 5 million dollar deal.

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    Yeah, let's keep saving the money so we can land a superstar. That's worked out great.

    Brogdon would be my number 1 target as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG2TB View Post
    D Rose comes back to the Bulls, plays 82 games, and wins MVP....on a 5 million dollar deal.
    Donít forget he leads us to title #7 and wins Finals MVP too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toovey107 View Post
    Yeah, let's keep saving the money so we can land a superstar. That's worked out great.

    Brogdon would be my number 1 target as well.
    Has nothing to do with landing a superstar...... We don't even have superstar money. Nice attempt at a joke though. But sure, let's cap out like the Pistons have done for years and have nothing to show for it. Capped out team with no true star. Man glad we went through a rebuild to still be a first round exit team. That would be fun to watch. Ask AD how he feels about Moore, Asik, and hill getting that money instead of Boogie.

    Not to mention you have guys that can do almost the same thing who will cost maybe a third or fourth of what Brogdan will get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toovey107 View Post
    Yeah, let's keep saving the money so we can land a superstar. That's worked out great.

    Brogdon would be my number 1 target as well.
    Anthony Davis is probably the only legit "superstar" available in the coming years and he'll probably get traded this offseason to a contender and maybe an extension will follow. There's no superstar in the near future for the Bulls. They'll need to build them up themselves.

    The Bulls will probably have to go the 2010 route with their FA money when they missed out on LeBron/Wade/Bosh and just build a team with depth.
    Last edited by DRose01; 04-16-2019 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChitownbullsBG7 View Post
    Has nothing to do with landing a superstar...... We don't even have superstar money. Nice attempt at a joke though. But sure, let's cap out like the Pistons have done for years and have nothing to show for it. Capped out team with no true star. Man glad we went through a rebuild to still be a first round exit team. That would be fun to watch. Ask AD how he feels about Moore, Asik, and hill getting that money instead of Boogie.

    Not to mention you have guys that can do almost the same thing who will cost maybe a third or fourth of what Brogdan will get.
    We have Lavine 24, Lauri 22, and we could possibly have a top 4 pick who will be 19-20. Surrounding that core with Defensive and Efficient players like Wendell, Otto, Brogdon would be a pretty damn good start. We are also more likely to trade for a star then sign one in the offseason so having 6 assets with high trade value makes that very doable.

    For instance, say we win the Lotto and get Zion:

    You can now trade Lauri or Porter depending on if you want Zion as a 3 or a 4. Attach future picks and smaller pieces to that deal and you can get your SF or PF.

    If we land Ja Morant:

    We might have the right fitting super star anyways, and now we have a team guy and combo guard like Brogdon coming off the bench, playing good defense, and putting up elite efficient shooting numbers.

    If we land Culver or Barrett:

    We can decide who we want at SG between Culver/Lavine or Barrett/Lavine. We can pair 1 of our 2 SG's with elite value with Lauri if we want to get a better PF, with Carter if we want to get a better C, with Porter if we want to get a better SF, or with Brogdon if we want to get a better PG.

    Brogdon will carry tradeable value. Lavine carries tradeable value. Lauri is probably one of the better young trade chips out there. Carter carries tradeable value. RJ is probably looked at as an elite prospect by more than half the league. Culver could very well be a future star in the league. Morant would give us a potential star at our biggest position of need, with Brogdon giving us an elite 6th man while most of our team is on rookie deals. Zion would be the star we need, and he would allow us to make a trade at SF or PF to improve if we felt like it.

    Signing Brogdon won't cripple us. He'd probably cost around 14-17 per year. If his shooting stayed elite and he stayed healthy he would be very easy to trade if we wanted to improve further at PG. The Bucks have to resign Middleton to likely max deal. When that happens, what can they realistically match for Brogdon? Maybe 10-12 million, if they can move Hill's 18 million or Snells 11 million, or Ilyasova's 7 million. They are going to have all their money locked into Giannis, Bledsoe, Middleton. Brogdon could look at our situation of needing a PG, with a young core, and he might jump at an offer from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG2TB View Post
    D Rose comes back to the Bulls, plays 82 games, and wins MVP....on a 5 million dollar deal.
    Trade Dunn. Sign Rose and Beverley ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRose01 View Post
    Anthony Davis is probably the only legit "superstar" available in the coming years and he'll probably get traded this offseason to a contender and maybe an extension will follow. There's no superstar in the near future for the Bulls. They'll need to build them up themselves.

    The Bulls will probably have to go the 2010 route with their FA money when they missed out on LeBron/Wade/Bosh and just build a team with depth.
    That's why I think we should go for Brogdon and resign Rolo. Grab the best player available in round 1, and take a combo big in round 2.

    Brogdon/Dunn
    Lavine/(RJ or Culver)
    Porter/Hutch
    Lauri/(Clarke or Grant Williams)
    Carter/ROLO

    Bring back a couple of those young wings and guards we have on the cheap to back up this core.

    I'd say that team healthy makes the East playoffs pretty easily. We will have a couple years to assess our young players and decide whether we want to go with RJ or Culver over Lavine. Whichever one we decide to move on from, we trade that player plus the player starting at the position we are trying to improve. That's assuming there is a team with a star caliber player who they are ready to move on from that fits with us and puts us over the top. Or we just rock out with this young efficient core, and see if they can grow into an elite team when some of the big name teams start falling apart with age and other factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChI_ShIzzLe View Post
    Donít forget he leads us to title #7 and wins Finals MVP too.
    Good catch!

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