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  1. #766
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Nice post
    Yep even if I responded with things I didnít agree with, there is plenty in there I do. And it was obvious there was thought put into it.

    Even when I clash with him it feels like an actual conversation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    Yep even if I responded with things I didnít agree with, there is plenty in there I do. And it was obvious there was thought put into it.

    Even when I clash with him it feels like an actual conversation.


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    Yea, your response was actually solid too.

    It's a complicated issue, theres a lot of different legitimate view points on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Yea, your response was actually solid too.

    It's a complicated issue, theres a lot of different legitimate view points on this
    I think thereís a few of us arguing around getting us to a similar point. Then there are a couple others just firing off into another dart board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Yes, this is exactly what is happening, but given the history of America and how blacks have been treated, then naturally helping the disadvantage means unproportionately helping blacks.

    For example, we need prison reform, period. However the reality of today is that blacks are the victims of these for profit prison at a MUCH higher rate than the rest of us, and so when we talk about the disadvantaged then there is an obvious connection between being disadvantaged and being black, and so it will naturally sound like the talk focuses on blacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeW-Star View Post
    I think thereís a few of us arguing around getting us to a similar point. Then there are a couple others just firing off into another dart board.


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    I think anyone rational have near the same ideas. Then you got others calling Mexicans peasants because they wanna try to better their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Nobody is saying you specifically or individually (or that anyone specifically or individually) today is responsible for Slavery. What we are saying is the United States as an institution is responsible for slavery and that the institution of the US Government has not fairly addressed the issue.

    If you're an institution you don't get to be absolved of consequences or restitution because the people in the organization are different. Could you imagine if this happened elsewhere? You successfully sued a drug maker for creating a drug that killed a family member or harmed yourself but the company goes "well no one who made that drug currently works for us, so we don't have to pay you". That isn't how it works.

    As for not having to pay for what others did in US history before us. Well we are all doing that right now. We are still paying off the debt the US incurred from before even I was alive. Yet nobody acts like we don't have to pay that back because none of us were responsible for that debt.

    It is the same in this case.
    Agreed, and likewise, some (individuals and groups) are still benefiting, at least indirectly, from the institutional problem.

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    Every . country has some kind of discrimination, .

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