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  1. #1726
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Can anyone tell me why Yu Darvish has a higher rWAR than Walker Buehler despite throwing less innings, and having a significantly higher ERA and FIP
    Because WAR is not a very good stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Was it the only pitch the ump missed? If 300 pitches are thrown in the game and one was blown, that's remarkable.
    That IS remarkable. But statistically, if 300 pitches are thrown, they are going to get about 42 of them wrong. And that includes balls down the middle and a foot off the plate. I can't even imagine what the percent is on borderline calls. Maybe 50% wrong?

    I saw a study that shows they are wrong 14% of the time. I can no longer find it. I want to say that the sample size was gigantic.

    Here's a couple I did find.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ho...hes-2019-04-08

    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/mlb...-zone-accuracy
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    Cole hits 300 Ks, the Astros hit 100 wins first and they're now essentially 2 up on New York and 3 up on LA for home field advantage. Great night for the 'Stros!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Can anyone tell me why Yu Darvish has a higher rWAR than Walker Buehler despite throwing less innings, and having a significantly higher ERA and FIP
    Because the RA9avg for Buehler is 4.07, and for Darvish it's 4.93

    Beuhler has faced significantly weaker opponents than Darvish in a pitchers park. Buehler is expected to have an ERA .86 runs better than Darvish.

    Of course, Buehler has a 5.0 fWAR, and Darvish a 2.3 fWAR. But rWAR is more result dependent than that. But it has nothing to do with FIP

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    If you go down the leaderboard of the weakest opponents and most favorable pitching enviornments, it's almost all Dodgers pitchers who enjoy that.

    The league average expected runs against is 4.93 (MLB)

    The Dodgers are almost a full run better than that at 3.98

    Second place is the Cardinals down at 4.34

    The Dodgers enjoy the most favorable pitching in all of baseball. Weak opponents, and great pitchers park.

    Meanwhile, the Rangers, have a 6.09, which is why Mike Minor's season is so impressive.

    The individuals with the easiest pitching?

    It's all Dodgers, and Dodger relievers.

    Of guys with minimum 40.0 innings pitched, they are all Dodgers until Carlos Martinez, who is 8th place. Then it's pretty much more Dodgers for awhile until you get to Walker Buehler and Kenta Maeda.

    This is why the Dodgers as a team only have a 13.4 rWAR, which is 13th best in baseball, despite having the best ERA in baseball. Their pitchers are expected to have a significantly easier time pitching than the rest of baseball.

    It also speaks a lot about the season that Ryu is having. 4.20 RA9avg, one of the lowest in baseball for a starter.

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    Acuna just became youngest player in MLB history to hit 40 HR's and steal 30 bases in one season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Because the RA9avg for Buehler is 4.07, and for Darvish it's 4.93

    Beuhler has faced significantly weaker opponents than Darvish in a pitchers park. Buehler is expected to have an ERA .86 runs better than Darvish.

    Of course, Buehler has a 5.0 fWAR, and Darvish a 2.3 fWAR. But rWAR is more result dependent than that. But it has nothing to do with FIP
    OK thank you for the explantion, so the differnce is based more on the expected results given ball parks and opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    If you go down the leaderboard of the weakest opponents and most favorable pitching enviornments, it's almost all Dodgers pitchers who enjoy that.

    The league average expected runs against is 4.93 (MLB)

    The Dodgers are almost a full run better than that at 3.98

    Second place is the Cardinals down at 4.34

    The Dodgers enjoy the most favorable pitching in all of baseball. Weak opponents, and great pitchers park.

    Meanwhile, the Rangers, have a 6.09, which is why Mike Minor's season is so impressive.

    The individuals with the easiest pitching?

    It's all Dodgers, and Dodger relievers.

    Of guys with minimum 40.0 innings pitched, they are all Dodgers until Carlos Martinez, who is 8th place. Then it's pretty much more Dodgers for awhile until you get to Walker Buehler and Kenta Maeda.

    This is why the Dodgers as a team only have a 13.4 rWAR, which is 13th best in baseball, despite having the best ERA in baseball. Their pitchers are expected to have a significantly easier time pitching than the rest of baseball.

    It also speaks a lot about the season that Ryu is having. 4.20 RA9avg, one of the lowest in baseball for a starter.
    I read....It's all the SF Giants fault for being incompetent offensively and playing in an extreme pitchers park.

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    Why exactly was the Vasquez thread moved out of the MLB forum? Seems like a lame and useless attempt at hiding it if you ask me. There's really no precedent for doing this either.

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    Watching the brewers/padres game, that was the second RBI strikeout ive seen this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    If you go down the leaderboard of the weakest opponents and most favorable pitching enviornments, it's almost all Dodgers pitchers who enjoy that.

    The league average expected runs against is 4.93 (MLB)

    The Dodgers are almost a full run better than that at 3.98

    Second place is the Cardinals down at 4.34

    The Dodgers enjoy the most favorable pitching in all of baseball. Weak opponents, and great pitchers park.

    Meanwhile, the Rangers, have a 6.09, which is why Mike Minor's season is so impressive.

    The individuals with the easiest pitching?

    It's all Dodgers, and Dodger relievers.

    Of guys with minimum 40.0 innings pitched, they are all Dodgers until Carlos Martinez, who is 8th place. Then it's pretty much more Dodgers for awhile until you get to Walker Buehler and Kenta Maeda.

    This is why the Dodgers as a team only have a 13.4 rWAR, which is 13th best in baseball, despite having the best ERA in baseball. Their pitchers are expected to have a significantly easier time pitching than the rest of baseball.

    It also speaks a lot about the season that Ryu is having. 4.20 RA9avg, one of the lowest in baseball for a starter.
    It used to be a greater pitcher's park when there was more foul territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    OK thank you for the explantion, so the differnce is based more on the expected results given ball parks and opponents.
    Yes, 100% that.

    NL West has weaker offenses overall,

    And the parks he's pitched in
    Dodger stadium - 13 times
    And then either a pitchers park or a really weak offensive team every time except for (once in Washington, twice in Colorado, and then marginally good, once in New York, once in Philly).

    He just hasn't had a tough time when it comes to matching up against great teams. Plus, the Dodgers are a good defensive team.

    All of that is affecting him, and he's expected to have really elite ERA's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    I read....It's all the SF Giants fault for being incompetent offensively and playing in an extreme pitchers park.
    Well, Padres and Giants are both bad offensively, and play in pitchers parks.

    And while the Rockies and D'Backs are in hitters parks, they haven't been particularly great offensively this year.

    The Dodgers are 4th in baseball in wRC+

    The next NL West team are the D'Backs at 15 with a 95 wRC+
    Then the Padres are 22nd at 89, and then Rockies and Giants are both tied for 25th with 85.

    That's just some really bad offenses in the NL West that don't play with the Dodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodgerdave View Post
    It used to be a greater pitcher's park when there was more foul territory.
    For sure.

    It's why Sandy Koufax had to toss sub 2 ERA's over 300 innings to have a chance for a 10 win season, and Aaron Nola can tie him with only 212 innings and a 2.37 ERA last year.

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